klingon bird of prey appearances

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:30 pm

Hi all
I'm trying to list all the appearances of the various types of klingon birds of prey, but this is proving difficult, as the best i can get is a listing of 45 DS9 and TNG episodes, without any distinction between the larger birds of prey and the smaller birds of prey, appreciate its an arduous task but could anyone help,please?
Thanks
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Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:18 pm

Well, my suggestion would be list them all out first, and we'll see if anyone can come up with anything different.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:23 pm

Good plan,bry, will do!

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:30 pm

Righty got the appearances listed, was hoping perhaps, if anyone fancied it,we could quote the list and give a little annotation beside each title e.g. '-big bird of prey' etc
TOS films: (4)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
TNG: (12)
"A Matter Of Honor"
"The Defector"
"Yesterday's Enterprise" (K'vort-class)
"Sins of the Father"
"Reunion"
"The Mind's Eye"
"Redemption"
"Redemption II"
"Unification I"
"Unification II"
"Rascals" (B'rel-class)
"Firstborn"
TNG films: (1)
Star Trek Generations (D12-class)
DS9: (26)
"Past Prologue"
"Crossover" (mirror universe)
"Blood Oath"
"The Way of the Warrior"
"Return to Grace"
"Sons of Mogh"
"Rules of Engagement"
"Shattered Mirror" (mirror universe)
"Apocalypse Rising"
"In Purgatory's Shadow"
"By Inferno's Light"
"Soldiers of the Empire"
"Call to Arms"
"A Time to Stand"
"Sons and Daughters"
"Favor the Bold"
"Sacrifice of Angels"
"You Are Cordially Invited"
"Tears of the Prophets"
"Image in the Sand"
"Once More Unto the Breach"
"Strange Bedfellows"
"The Changing Face of Evil"
"When It Rains..."
"Tacking Into the Wind"
"What You Leave Behind"
VOY: (2)
"Unity"
"Drone" (K'vort-class; computer display)

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:23 am

What about the ENT appearances of the old Birds? Or do they not count?

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:37 pm

Good man, i had previous banished ENT from my head, as a form of purging, like a spring clean of continuity errors, but i guess, ENT is cannon............ho-hum!

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:48 pm

I don't suppose we could just pretend the whole series was a bad dream?

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:22 pm

Lol,damn right, i do

Post by **Teaos** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:43 pm

I don't class it as trek. It was an independent series. Easier that way for everyone.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:49 pm

yeah,teaos, by the way,one of my enterprise model kits,in fact the NX herself, officially sanctioned by paramount etc but has 'enterprise' written on the box but not 'star trek', i heard this was a conscious campaign on a wider scale of 'enterprise merchandise' to open the appeal of 'enterprise' to a more mainstream audience, anyone else hear that?

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:26 pm

ENT appearances of bird of preys,some love the idea,personally, i prefer the bird of prey being a romulan design, produced from a collaboration between the two powers...

ENT:
"The Expanse"
"Borderland"
"Cold Station 12"
"The Augments"
"Divergence"

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:13 pm

Part of my deluded idea, (certainly not visionary lol) was to think about what size birds of prey were in what episodes,and how frequently, just to get the vagueist idea of the evolution of the klingon fleet,clearly this idea is fraught with peril and wraught with tiny innumberable holes,but thought it might be fun.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:53 am

That's a lot of appearances... maybe the most out of any non-Starfleet ship.

I don't mind the appearanes of BoP-styled ships in ENT. A natural evolution of the design.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:17 am

ok, prepare to boo, but i liked the klingon bird of prey being a romulan-klingon design, the valdore makes more sense that way,if the general design of the klingon bird of prey is romulan inspired....at least to me it does lol
I like the fan efforts,with models of klingon bird of preys, painted wihite,with the quills on the wings painted orange ala balance of terror,romulan bird of prey,its not cannon but i like it.
What do you all think?

Post by **Teaos** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:19 pm

I can't see them working together to build a ship.

A NAP or even a trade maybe but not colaberation.