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Beaming fun stuff onto enemy ships

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:14 pm
by DBS
Here is a thread dedicated to the discussion of unconventional tactics...Like beaming photon torpedoes into fun places on a target vessel. I put the thread here because we only have seen it done to a hapless Borg scoutship in a Voyager episode.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:21 pm
by Captain Seafort
To be fair it could just as easilly have gone in TOS since that's where the tactic originated. In the form of large numbers of rapidly multiplying furballs. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:23 pm
by DBS
Captain Seafort wrote:To be fair it could just as easilly have gone in TOS since that's where the tactic originated. In the form of large numbers of rapidly multiplying furballs. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Forgot about that! oh, well...

This means unconventional transporter tactic #1: the Tribble Bomb! :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:23 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I love that episode!

Could it be that ships in combat activate some sort of ECM system that blocks jamming? It would make sense.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:28 pm
by Captain Seafort
Rochey wrote:Could it be that ships in combat activate some sort of ECM system that blocks jamming? It would make sense.
Almost certainly. It badly affects weapons targetting as well, since though Trek weapons have been mentioned as targetting objects tens or hundreds of thousands of kilometres away, combat invariably occurs at a few kilometres at most and as close as hundreds of metres at times.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:30 pm
by Sionnach Glic
That explains a lot. It seems the feds need better ECCM.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:09 am
by Teaos
There is a lot on this in the TR-116 thread for anyone who wants to look.

More or less I think it is a very effective idea but is very hard to use.

It is also usually a death blow so wouldn't be used unless you wanted to destroy someone which the Federation usually tries to avoid.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:33 am
by Sionnach Glic
In events like the Dominion war why didn't they do it in that case?
The Federation was definately trying to kill the enemy there.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:43 am
by Teaos
Maybe they did.

Remember we only ever see the battles of one ship out of hundreds.

If the right situation only presents its self rearly so the chances of the ship we see do it are slim but it still may happen occasionally.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:52 pm
by Bryan Moore
One of Mr. Scott's tactics in the book Kobayashi Maru was to beam photon torpedos out into space and then beam away the casings as a Klingon Fleet maneuvered into the antimatter. Clever.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:00 pm
by Captain Seafort
The fundamental problem with using the transporters as a weapon is the shields. If the enemy have lost their shields then they're horribly vulnerable aleady. Why drop your own shields, and throw away a huge advantage in order to gain a slight advantage?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:03 pm
by DBS
Not to mention that if you drop your shields to beam the "fun item" over, there is nothing stopping them from doing the exact same thing to you :shock:

"Quick, their shields are down! Beam over the photon torpedoes!"
"Yes, sir...lowering shields.... aw $h*t...BOOM!!!!!"

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:08 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Yeah, personally I'd just fire them in a more conventional way. Much safer, even if it does take a bit longer.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:38 pm
by Crushproof
As far as I know you shouldn't be able to transport Photon Torpedoes at all, as they have their own shields and even warp fields.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:53 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I think they could turn off the shields on the torp. :wink:

Is it posible that they cant transport anti-matter? I don't recall them doing that. (although I don't recall that much about Voy' thankfully :D )