Beaming fun stuff onto enemy ships

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:14 pm

Here is a thread dedicated to the discussion of unconventional tactics...Like beaming photon torpedoes into fun places on a target vessel. I put the thread here because we only have seen it done to a hapless Borg scoutship in a Voyager episode.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:21 pm

To be fair it could just as easilly have gone in TOS since that's where the tactic originated. In the form of large numbers of rapidly multiplying furballs.

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:23 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:To be fair it could just as easilly have gone in TOS since that's where the tactic originated. In the form of large numbers of rapidly multiplying furballs.

Forgot about that! oh, well...

This means unconventional transporter tactic #1: the Tribble Bomb!

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:23 pm

I love that episode!

Could it be that ships in combat activate some sort of ECM system that blocks jamming? It would make sense.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:28 pm

Rochey wrote:Could it be that ships in combat activate some sort of ECM system that blocks jamming? It would make sense.

Almost certainly. It badly affects weapons targetting as well, since though Trek weapons have been mentioned as targetting objects tens or hundreds of thousands of kilometres away, combat invariably occurs at a few kilometres at most and as close as hundreds of metres at times.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:30 pm

That explains a lot. It seems the feds need better ECCM.

Post by **Teaos** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:09 am

There is a lot on this in the TR-116 thread for anyone who wants to look.

More or less I think it is a very effective idea but is very hard to use.

It is also usually a death blow so wouldn't be used unless you wanted to destroy someone which the Federation usually tries to avoid.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:33 am

In events like the Dominion war why didn't they do it in that case?
The Federation was definately trying to kill the enemy there.

Post by **Teaos** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:43 am

Maybe they did.

Remember we only ever see the battles of one ship out of hundreds.

If the right situation only presents its self rearly so the chances of the ship we see do it are slim but it still may happen occasionally.

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:52 pm

One of Mr. Scott's tactics in the book Kobayashi Maru was to beam photon torpedos out into space and then beam away the casings as a Klingon Fleet maneuvered into the antimatter. Clever.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:00 pm

The fundamental problem with using the transporters as a weapon is the shields. If the enemy have lost their shields then they're horribly vulnerable aleady. Why drop your own shields, and throw away a huge advantage in order to gain a slight advantage?

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:03 pm

Not to mention that if you drop your shields to beam the "fun item" over, there is nothing stopping them from doing the exact same thing to you

"Quick, their shields are down! Beam over the photon torpedoes!"
"Yes, sir...lowering shields.... aw $h*t...BOOM!!!!!"

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:08 pm

Yeah, personally I'd just fire them in a more conventional way. Much safer, even if it does take a bit longer.

Crushproof · Post by **Crushproof** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:38 pm

As far as I know you shouldn't be able to transport Photon Torpedoes at all, as they have their own shields and even warp fields.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:53 pm

I think they could turn off the shields on the torp.

Is it posible that they cant transport anti-matter? I don't recall them doing that. (although I don't recall that much about Voy' thankfully

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