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Tyyr wrote:Hell if you want to get serious about it a lot of comic characters have been trending towards more realistic/practical get ups and moving away from the spandex/latex past.
Pfff. beautiful women in a bathingsuits will never be out of date imho. I wouldn't see a problem with a more "classical" costume.

Now having never read the comic my contact with the subject matter is mostly from the Judgement Leagues TV Series etc. which I watched as kid but imho the absolutly greatest problem with Wonder Woman is the absolutly horrible background which just doesn't fit nowadays imho. It was maybe fine in the 50s and 60s, but for me raised with the concept of complete gender equality her background is pretty much sexiest. "Each Amazon is the soul of a woman murdered by a man....etc. " Didn't dig any further honestly because of serious WTF?.

Now I am not sure how often her background got revamped and what is canonical nowadays, or whatever but if they want to adapt her to audiences today they should seriously adapt her background. It is like if you have hero whose only role was to fight the soviet union and you want to adapt him for today you need to make changes. Same here.
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Just a few random thinking points...

IIRC the Amazons in Wonder Woman are immortal, so there's no real problem setting a story in any time frame you like. Indeed I seem to recall that was the justification for setting a Season 1 of Lynda Carter's series in WWII and then jumping to the 70s for Season 2. I don't doubt the current movie will be set today or "fifteen minutes into the future".

I think / hope they will drop the invisible airplane. It's just such a stupid concept in so many ways - it's dumb that an island of women with no modern technology could build an airplane, Wonder Woman wouldn't have the infrastructure to use it anywhere anyway unless it was both VTOL and had incredible range, and if they do the series thing of showing her sitting visible in the sky...

I hope and assume they come up with a better costume change idea than Lynda Carter had.

From what I've read WW is one of the all time physically strongest superheros, with strength rivaling Superman himself. I'm curious as to just how strong they will make her in the movie.

Not being a comic reader I have no idea if WW is associated with any major enemies that might show up. From the series I mostly remember she took on fairly pedestrian villains... enemy spies, assassins, crime lords, that kind of thing. I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to introduce some super villain for her to fight or not.

Alrighty, controversial, but... there's one rather glaringly obvious aspect of Wonder Woman that I don't think has ever really been touched on (again, not being a comic fan maybe this was done there). She's lived all her life on an island filled with women and no men whatsoever. So, to be blunt, shouldn't these women basically be a big gang of lesbians? One could do an awful lot with that in terms of her getting to grips with how the society she's come to help views it, and how she would feel suddenly being around men after not having that option for all her life. Would she be disgusted, intrigued, tempted, all of the above? But I'll bet you anything you like the movie isn't going to go anywhere near that.
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I might get the wording somewhat wrong-but the spirit is there. from I believe a JLA comic.

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I might get the wording somewhat wrong-but the spirit is there. from I believe a JLA comic.

"They don't call it Paradise Island for nothing."
Maybe I am alone in this but I find such thinghs borderline offensive. It falls for me into the same questionable nature-mysticism categorie we had for example in Pocahontas or Avatar.

Hey look, we have no technology whatsoever and live and die at natures whim - THIS must be paradise.
Hey look, we live on an island without men - THIS must be paradise.

I mean how do they come up with such stupid utopias?
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I don't think the single-gender nature of Paradise Island was ever the facet that was supposed to be Utopian... except maybe for some film crews for direct-to-video releases. ;)

What worries me about this film is this: when WW came out in comics - and we're talking 1941 - she was a superhero, but also a woman with all the baggage that prevalent attitudes of that time attached. In other words, she was super-strong and all that, but there was also an undercurrent of constantly getting captured (and bound, one may notice) and generally being of "the weaker sex," even though she was obviously physically capable.

That tone - played as a joke in the Lynda Carter series masterfully by Lye Waggoner - will never fly with a modern audience.
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Of course not. I know little about this movie beyond a few of the names that have been attached to is (Joss Whedon!), but I'll bet you anything that Wonder Woman is going to be yet another "Beautiful sexy woman kicks male ass" character a la Xena, Buffy, Sydney Bristow, Charlie's Angels, Beatrix Kiddo and most every other modern female character.
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Sure, wasn't that the reason that quite a lot of guys used to watch the show? To see Lynda Carter in bondage??? :D Have I said too much? I'll get my coat....

Along the same sort of lines (although going OT somewhat) the A Team was the same. A testosterone fuelled, alpha male-centric show that you'd never get away with making now....but what fucking great TV it was to a 12 year old at the time!
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Besides, she can fight for my rights, in her satin tights any day ;)

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thelordharry wrote:Sure, wasn't that the reason that quite a lot of guys used to watch the show? To see Lynda Carter in bondage??? Have I said too much? I'll get my coat....
Why was there any alternative to that reason?
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Our dad used to say she was called Wonder Woman because no matter what she did they never fell out :) He used to wonder why.

I did once see an episode were Wonder Woman hung up-side-down from a rope over a safe build into a pressure sensitive floor. It was truly awe inspiring to see. Wow I found it, god bless Youtube:

Behold, Wonder Woman, upside down!
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Is it any wonder that Lynda Carter was such an influence in my life?
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Now I do like those ankle boots...
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You have to remember, the couple who created Wonder Woman were in to Bondage, big time. That's why she'd go out, kick ass, and invariably wind up tied up in her own lasso at some point. She'd eventually escape and win but not before spending a little time tied up and being whipped.
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