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Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:09 pm
by Graham Kennedy
So given my recent delving into the TOS world, I have been thinking about the division symbols we see in TOS.

Of course everyone in Starfleet now uses the same delta shield symbol, but in TOS each ship had their own symbol.

Enterprise :
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Constellation :
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Exeter :
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And so on. I've been designing some of these to go with the TOS-era characters I created recently, and it's a lot of fun.

Slightly less obvious is that different departments have different symbols on the ship system.
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Engineering on the left, command in the middle, science on the right. Some sources say there was also one with a small red cross, for medical, but McCoy wore the science design in every shot I have seen.

Curiously, there doesn't seem to be a security symbol. All the redshirt security types I've found wear the engineering symbol. That seems odd to me - are we to believe that the security department is under the Engineering division? Or is it the case that there is no security division, and security officers were drawn from other divisions as needed - and most/all that we saw happened to come from Engineering?

Would it be justifiable to invent a security symbol? It needs to be a relatively simple shape, clearly different from the others... crossed swords, perhaps?

Any thoughts?

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:11 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Crossed swords would work. Maybe a simplified phaser?

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:02 am
by Graham Kennedy
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Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:12 am
by Graham Kennedy
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Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:12 am
by Graham Kennedy
I actually like both of those...

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:21 am
by Mikey
Maybe crossed halberds?

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:54 am
by Graham Kennedy
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Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:08 am
by Teaos
A tomb stone.

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:48 am
by Bryan Moore
Teaos wrote:A tomb stone.
:mrgreen: WINRAR

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:48 am
by Bryan Moore
Graham Kennedy wrote:Image
This looks like a frowning gremlin! I like it.

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:08 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Bryan Moore wrote:
Graham Kennedy wrote:Image
This looks like a frowning gremlin! I like it.
Now I can't unsee it. That is not a bad thing, mind. ;)

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:56 am
by DonP
It was my understanding, though I may be wrong, that the swirl symbol represented "Ship's Services": Engineering, Security, Communications, Damage Control, Laundry... Basically everything not Command or Science.

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:26 am
by Bryan Moore
DonP wrote:It was my understanding, though I may be wrong, that the swirl symbol represented "Ship's Services": Engineering, Security, Communications, Damage Control, Laundry... Basically everything not Command or Science.

Heh... Laundry. Helluvah job.

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:13 am
by DonP
Yeah, my friends and I used to joke about a poor crewman who bragged to his family about working on the Enterprise until they asked him what he did, forcing him to admit it was in something like the Laundry or Waste Recycling. :P

Re: Division symbols in TOS

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:06 pm
by Mikey
Or, per Trip, the guy who makes boots out of shit.