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SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:10 pm
by Nutso
http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-re ... ew-6635867
Opinionated Star Trek Episode Guide returns! The planets are disappearing and the remains of the trashed USS Constellation seem deserted, but what could be the cause? Perhaps the title gives away the answer…

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:44 pm
by Captain Seafort
Good review, although I disagree with Chuck's analysis of it as TOS's finest hour in terms of action. Despite the relative lack of it in the episode, I think that label has to go to Balance of Terror.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:10 pm
by McAvoy
Captain Seafort wrote:Good review, although I disagree with Chuck's analysis of it as TOS's finest hour in terms of action. Despite the relative lack of it in the episode, I think that label has to go to Balance of Terror.
I think Doomsday Machine is the best SFX TOS episode though.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:15 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Captain Seafort wrote:Good review, although I disagree with Chuck's analysis of it as TOS's finest hour in terms of action. Despite the relative lack of it in the episode, I think that label has to go to Balance of Terror.
I gotta agree. The tension and move/countermove in Balance of Terror pushes it over the edge for me.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:10 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
And now just having watched the review... it earned that 10.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:34 pm
by McAvoy
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:And now just having watched the review... it earned that 10.
The episode has always earned top marks in whatever reviewing scale.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:53 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
And it more than deserves those top marks.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:49 pm
by Tyyr
One of my favorite episodes. It needs to be in the "must watch" list of TOS and is a prime example of why it's STILL good sci-fi.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:15 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
I read a review a long time ago that noted Decker's log-it sounds almost exactly like one Kirk would've made. It's a nice touch to show that before this, Decker was... probably a good commander.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:03 am
by Mithrandir
Great review of a great episode. Even the score is really thrilling and outstanding in every sense of the word.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:24 am
by Vic
The esteem that Kirk holds Decker in shows in the entire episode. Kirk's line "Matt, we're stronger with you than without you" shows this. Having Decker's crew completely wiped out just broke him.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:23 pm
by McAvoy
Subtle reminder that Decker could easily be Kirk in this situation.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:03 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
McAvoy wrote:Subtle reminder that Decker could easily be Kirk in this situation.
Yeah. I gotta disagree with SF that Kirk might've handled it better. I don't think so.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:11 am
by Graham Kennedy
I wonder. Whilst Kirk often lost men on missions, he almost always reacted to it happening pretty strongly - more than once he almost loses it on the spot because some random redshirt buys it. If he lost his entire crew... Spock and Bones included... and had to actually listen to it happening, knowing that it's at least in some way his fault?

I really do wonder if that would break even Kirk.

Re: SF Debris: The Doomsday Machine

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:29 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
GrahamKennedy wrote:I wonder. Whilst Kirk often lost men on missions, he almost always reacted to it happening pretty strongly - more than once he almost loses it on the spot because some random redshirt buys it. If he lost his entire crew... Spock and Bones included... and had to actually listen to it happening, knowing that it's at least in some way his fault?

I really do wonder if that would break even Kirk.
Oh, I definitely think something like this would break Kirk. I noted in my semi-ancient reviews that Kirk could be quite torn up over the deaths of crewmembers. ANY crewmember.