Politics...revealed

Captain Peabody · Post by **Captain Peabody** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:09 am

Student describes how she became a Clinton plant

Read it, and weep...

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:31 am

Sweet! Maybe this will help put the final nail in Clinton's lead.
That made my day

I Am Spartacus · Post by **I Am Spartacus** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:26 am

What about Jeff Gannon, the homosexual escort turned syncophant reporter? What about all those town hall meetings George Bush did where only those with approved questions or comments ("I just want to say how lucky I feel to have you as president") were allowed in? This is just politics as usual, and as usual the right wing noise machine makes it look significant, never mind that Hillary herself had no idea that there even was a plant in the first place.

Post by **Mikey** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:04 pm

I happen to be a Dem, but I have to say how disgusted I am with the fact that I am so jaded and blase about this type of thing. Is it awful? Yes. Am I surprised No. I', sure the right will blow this up, but the fact of the matter is that this is simply business as usual - for BOTH sides of the aisle. Hell, I personally was forcibly removed from a seminar with a Republican congressman when I was a teenager because I refused to let a matter rest when he consistently avoided answering a question of mine.

The unfortunate truth of democracy is that elected leaders have to get, well... elected.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:56 pm

Mikey wrote:Hell, I personally was forcibly removed from a seminar with a Republican congressman when I was a teenager because I refused to let a matter rest when he consistently avoided answering a question of mine.

This seems to be a particular problem with American politicians - they can't cope with people who refuse to cow-tow to them. The best example I've seen of this was when George Galloway was testifying to sme Congressional committee. Rather than bow and scrape to the panel as they evidently expected him to, he went for the jugular, and they didn't have the faintest idea of how to deal with him.

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:42 pm

I Am Spartacus wrote: This is just politics as usual, and as usual the right wing noise machine makes it look significant, never mind that Hillary herself had no idea that there even was a plant in the first place.

CNN reported it first not FOX and CNN is probably the least bias out of the three major cable news networks. Personally I watch MSNBC so I missed this.

And we don't know if Hillary knew or didn't know. Either way I hope she loses some points. Cause god is out to get her:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=OLPfsNpCP1s

lol

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:22 pm

I'm not surprised about that happening at all.

Mikey, sucks they removed you like that.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:35 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:
Mikey wrote:Hell, I personally was forcibly removed from a seminar with a Republican congressman when I was a teenager because I refused to let a matter rest when he consistently avoided answering a question of mine.
This seems to be a particular problem with American politicians - they can't cope with people who refuse to cow-tow to them. The best example I've seen of this was when George Galloway was testifying to sme Congressional committee. Rather than bow and scrape to the panel as they evidently expected him to, he went for the jugular, and they didn't have the faintest idea of how to deal with him.

Yep, it's a bit different over here. We have Parliament when you get Labour and the Torries hurling insults and shouting at each other. In the US it's just boring - I've actually heard a few Americans say how much more they'd prefer the English system of PM's Questions and the like

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:21 pm

Monroe, that's HI-LARIOUS!

And I find it interesting in that article that Clinton was elected in '94 without the majority popular vote. The same thing everyone trashes Bush about all the time...

Post by **Mikey** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:55 pm

Thorin wrote:We have Parliament when you get Labour and the Torries hurling insults and shouting at each other.

We have that too - it's called "campaigning."

I've actually heard a few Americans say how much more they'd prefer the English system of PM's Questions and the like

Meh. I'd rather have a duma than that.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:59 pm

I love the vids of Asian government officials attacking each other in session. Awesome. I'll see if I can't find a few examples.

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:30 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:I love the vids of Asian government officials attacking each other in session. Awesome. I'll see if I can't find a few examples.

America used to have that happen in congress.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:48 pm

Monroe wrote:America used to have that happen in congress.

Aaron Burr, anyone?

Captain Peabody · Post by **Captain Peabody** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:07 pm

Heck, that still happens! It wasn't long ago that some Democratic and Republican politicians got into a brawl in the Alabama State Congress...it was hilarious.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:26 pm

Here's a good example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-iaIj685fw

And here's one from the good ol' Czech Republic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qa1kp5KR84