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Part 2 starts in four hours. I'm surprised not to see a thread for part 1, but there you go.

Predictions, anyone?

U.K. only?

British Isles I think, given that Sionnach can get it, but not the States unfortunately (at least not as far as I'm aware).

I wasn't terribly impressed as a whole with part 1 but then again I haven't really thought too much of the last series or two
But it was nice to see

colmquinn wrote:I wasn't terribly impressed as a whole with part 1 but then again I haven't really thought too much of the last series or two

It wasn't too bad, but it was pretty obvious that most of it was just setting up the real story in part 2.

colmquinn wrote:it was nice to see

the time lords making a comeback, how long they keep em there is another matter

That would be cool as regenation scene, or even

And David Jacobi should have stayed as the Master - he was much scarier then John Simms.

My opinion of that episode is as follows
That should be clear enough.

To give people a heads-up, at 1200 GMT tomorrow I'll stick a spoiler tag in the title and stop spoilerising the text

Been following #drwho on Twitter - I haven't seen so many crying females since Stephen Gately came out of the closet.

Its also replete with redheads fed up with the Ginger comments.

kostmayer wrote:

Assuming that was Mickey and Martha on the alternate Cybermen infested Earth, how did the Doctor get back there?

Who said they were on the alternate Earth? Both Martha and Mickey ended up on the main universe Earth in Journey's End.

kostmayer wrote:Snip..

Did they not come back in a previous ep A Previous Episode...

(I'm not spoilering that - if you can guess plot from that then good luck to you!)

I don't recall, but I'll take your word for it. Makes a nice change, Mickey stealing the Doctors woman for a change.

Well that was fucking atrocious. Yet so typically RTD.

Jesus, where do I even start?

Part 1 was very promissing. The Master was back, Tennant knew he was going to die, and Wilfred was tagging along (fuck the airheads, he should be the next companion 8) ). There was some mystery machine whose purpous was built up nicely, and it ends with it being Tennant and Wilfred versus the Master Race. That alone could have been a great final episode.

So what do they do with it? Toss that threat out the window in 15 minutes, as Dalton turns up, wiggles his glove (does anyone else thinks that the glove looked a lot like the Ressurection Glove from Torchwood? ) and the problem just goes away.

So it turns out that the Time Lords are the real bad guys of the finale, and that they want to destroy the universe to kill off their enemies and ascend (when the hell did this turn into Stargate?).

Now the Doctor now has a pretty tough choice - he has to violate his morals and kill the Master to cut the link. Oh, no, wait. There's another option so that the Doctor doesn't have to do it at all.

Dalton goes to kill Tennant, with us thinking that this is how the Doctor will die. But then the Master jumps to the rescue, fights off Dalton and they all get sucked back into the time-lock thingy.

So now the Doctor finds Wilfred locked in the box that's about to be filled with radiation, and there's no way to get him out without sacraficing himself (who the fuck designed that system?). I actualy really liked this bit. The Doctor could just walk away and leave Wilfred to his fate. Indeed, he'd be perfectly justified in doing so, as he his life is worth so much more than Wilfred's. But that's not the man he is, so he ignores Wilfred's pleas to leave him to his fate and sacrafices himself. At the end he's left lying on the floor, killed by a fatal dose of radiation.

But wait! He's actualy alright for now, so he goes off in what can only be described as RTD masturbatorily yelling "Hey! Look at all the great characters I made up!" and we get an obnoxious montage that seems to be almost as long as the rest of the bloody episode was.

So finaly he staggers back to the TARDIS and dies. Cue that bloody RTD-standard Regeneration Pose (here's hoping we don't see that again) and....stuff starts blowing up. What the fuck? Why is the TARDIS falling apart? Why is it falling towards Earth's surface? What the fuck? I don't recall ever seeing this happen during a regeneration. Was Tennant's persona just too powerful for the TARDIS to contain when it was unleashed from the Doctor's body?

So we get the new Doctor, who does a Tennant-esque "what do I look like now?" routine while the TARDIS is on the verge of going Chernobyll, or something. I still think he looks weird.

All in all, it was a big pile of awful. Utterly typical of RTD - he gives us a great premise in the first part, then fucks it all up in the second.

I think the biggest problem with this finale is that it was constantly trying to one-up itself.

First we have the Doctor hunting down the ressurrected and unstable Master. Cool, a big showdown between them could be a great finale.

Then the Master is captured by some evil wealthy people who have a strange alien device. Okay, cool. Someone with the resources to contain a mad Time Lord could be a very dangerous foe.

Oh, but now all the humans in the world bar two have turned into clones of the Master. Okay, still pretty damn cool. How's the Doctor going to get out of this one?

No, wait, the problem's magiced away by the return of the Time Lords, who are all cartoonishly evil now. The Doctor is saved from making any hard choices to resolve the matter, and the problem's solved.

So now the Doctor's dying, but we can't just let it end on a simple but poignant note, we have to try and throw some "saddening" montage into the end that doesn't work because it goes on far too long. Ugh.

Part one gets a 4/5 for me. I quite liked it.
Part two gets a 0/5. Utterly horrible.

One thing I did like though was the Doctor giving Donna a lotto ticket for her wedding present.

Alright gents, no more spoilerisation please - it's in the title now so there's no need. Seafort