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Discuss. What are your thoughts on these little ships that were built from Minbari and Earthforce Tech?

Probably the best ships in the series. Almost a bit wanktastic though since they could take on pretty much anything their size with ease and maneuvered like a fighter.

Monroe wrote:Probably the best ships in the series. Almost a bit wanktastic though since they could take on pretty much anything their size with ease and maneuvered like a fighter.

Many people compare them to the Defiant.

I think she was too powerful for her size, but a good ship nonetheless. And on the Defiant note, i think the Defiant is overpowered so it all fits.

Yep, the Defiant of B5, without the benefit of actually looking like a warship.

They were rather powerful, but being a new class of ship, and combining Vorlon technology as well, it can be forgiven.

And they weren't indestructible by any means - Earth Force ships took out quite a number of them during the war to liberate Earth, and their numbers were wittled down slowly but surely during the Alliance that followed.

Correction for you SSM. The White Stars are Minbari/Vorlon tech, not Earth tech.

I never saw them as over powered. They were overall far weaker then the Sharlin. Their advantage was their smaller size/cost/crew. Also that their fire power was focused fully forward.

On the downside. EA ships seemed to have little trouble returning the hurt, when they could hit them.

I have only seen them taking on shadow ships so far, and it completely mullered the shadows when almost all the other ships, including the Sharlin, struggled to even hit the damn thing.

Reliant121 wrote:I have only seen them taking on shadow ships so far, and it completely mullered the shadows when almost all the other ships, including the Sharlin, struggled to even hit the damn thing.

I don't remember that. I remember the first one taking down a shadow ship through a combination of using a telepath to basically freeze the ship, then pounding away at it for 30+ seconds of continous fire from it's main gun, and even then it took a Narn heavy joining in with it's main guns before they finally killed it. Had it been just a ship vs ship fight, the shadow vessel would have ripped the WS apart.

The two big things I recall being big about the WS's were them being the smallest ship (aside from the vorlons and shadows) able to make it's own jump gate, and having an adaptive shielding system that learned it's enemies weapons and become stronger against them each time.

Its not a shield but the hull itself that adapts. The WS is in fact alive. Also, they were able to lock onto the Shadows because their targeting systems are Vorlon.

Deepcrush wrote:Its not a shield but the hull itself that adapts. The WS is in fact alive. Also, they were able to lock onto the Shadows because their targeting systems are Vorlon.

I thought they had shields, unlike 99% of the races' ships. Then again, it's been years, so I can't say my memories are fresh. I knew they were bio-ships, though I don't remember the shadow ships using stealth systems, I thought that was the Mimbari.

Remember when the Leader of Zeta Wing went out looking for the Shadow Cruiser in the area. He couldn't track the ship itself, only the wake left in hyperspace.

The only race that uses shielding is the Centari on their older Battlecruisers IIRC.

Deepcrush wrote:Remember when the Leader of Zeta Wing went out looking for the Shadow Cruiser in the area. He couldn't track the ship itself, only the wake left in hyperspace.

The only race that uses shielding is the Centari on their older Battlecruisers IIRC.

...damn, it's just been too long I guess, I don't remember either. I need to toss the series onto my netflix.

Lighthawk wrote:

Deepcrush wrote:Remember when the Leader of Zeta Wing went out looking for the Shadow Cruiser in the area. He couldn't track the ship itself, only the wake left in hyperspace.

The only race that uses shielding is the Centari on their older Battlecruisers IIRC.

...damn, it's just been too long I guess, I don't remember either. I need to toss the series onto my netflix.

The first two seasons are on Hulu. That should save you some money.

I can't wait for season three!