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To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:06 am
by Lazar
Sorry for flogging a dead horse, but it just keeps bugging me: how does that damn yacht / torpedo launcher combo work on the Sovereign?

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The torpedo launcher is located right on the separation line, so it seems that you'd have to have an angled tube, with torpedoes launching at maybe a 25° downward angle relative to the ship. (And even at that, I'm still skeptical of how you could fit the launcher assembly so close to the yacht's hull.) How would that work?

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:24 am
by Sonic Glitch
Lazar wrote:Sorry for flogging a dead horse, but it just keeps bugging me: how does that damn yacht / torpedo launcher combo work on the Sovereign?

The torpedo launcher is located right on the separation line, so it seems that you'd have to have an angled tube, with torpedoes launching at maybe a 25° downward angle relative to the ship. (And even at that, I'm still skeptical of how you could fit the launcher assembly so close to the yacht's hull.) How would that work?
Very carefully. Or to borrow another famous Trek-related answer "very well thank you"

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:35 am
by Teaos
To be, or yacht to be
It's pun-tastic.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:45 am
by Sionnach Glic
We've had a couple of threads on this subject before, I think. IIRC, the conlcusion we reached is that the tube is probably loaded from the top down, with just the tube being present in that location, and the rest of the equipment being in the ship itself.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:12 am
by Captain Picard's Hair
How long is a torpedo tube, though? Considering that the second screenshot shows that part of the yacht lies above the separation line and "inside" the main ship, there would hardly seem to be any space for the tubes regardless of how they are loaded. Maybe they just drop them into that slot and the torps are basically instantly launched by some directed energy charge without any real length of tube (the torp's own guidance systems taking over)? If it's a stretch it would seem to be what the pictures demand.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:20 am
by Teaos
Burst fire tubes would need to be at least as long a torpedo x the amount of torpedoes it fires in a burst. Probably plus so space between them. Minimum.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:09 am
by Lazar
FWIW, I found this picture on DITL:

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It gives a better view of the internal layout.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:06 am
by Sionnach Glic
Technicaly, a torp tube needn't be that long. The torp has its own engine, so it only really needs to be slightly longer than the torpedo itself.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:36 am
by Captain Seafort
Teaos wrote:Burst fire tubes would need to be at least as long a torpedo x the amount of torpedoes it fires in a burst. Probably plus so space between them. Minimum.
Not necessarily. The torpedoes might be fed in at right-angles to the direction of launch, in the same way as modern automatic weapons.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:35 pm
by Deepcrush
Bullpup feeds? Not sure I like that idea when loading warheads in rapid fashion.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:37 pm
by Captain Seafort
You may not like it, but there's no room to do it any other way.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:48 pm
by Deepcrush
They should have (should, in trek, NO!!!) just skipped on building the yacht.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:10 pm
by Mikey
IIRC, the launcher in question that supposedly interfered with the yacht was a "turret," although it seemed in FC to act more like a revolver than an actual turret. If it did in fact operate six-shooter style, then it could easily have a drop-down loader rather than a linear one.

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:12 pm
by Deepcrush
No matter how advanced they get, it still comes down to a guy with a six shooter... :laughroll:

Re: To be, or yacht to be

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:21 pm
by Mikey
They might have been better off. A skilled pistolier with a handful of speed-loaders could've held that bottleneck at AR-558...