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Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:48 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Found some nice info on the Kelvin here, including a rotating 3d model.

Interesting facts:
The Kelvin is equiped with banks of pop-up phaser turrets.
The ship only has one nacelle, the dorsal "nacelle" is actualy a large hanger bay.
One of the officers is a previously unseen alien race.
The ship's bridge has windows rather than a viewscreen. :bangwall:

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:02 pm
by Teaos
Windows? They do realise that most of the events in trek happen when ships are at least hundreds of meters apart and sometimes kilometers apart?

Looking out a window wouldbe as inpractical as hell.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:12 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Not to mention the fact that it's a window on a fracking starship.

Gah, the stupid!

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:17 pm
by Nutso
Wow. I can actually see a little man in the bridge window. Who was the guy who hated the exposed bridges? A huge window on an exposed bridge is going to give him a coronary when he sees this.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:21 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Who was the guy who hated the exposed bridges? A huge window on an exposed bridge is going to give him a coronary when he sees this.
:wave:

For the record, I also hate windows on starships as well. So this is like double the stupidity.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:26 pm
by Captain Seafort
Great start indeed. :roll: What do you reckon the chances are of the warp core going bang when someone looks at it funny?

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:29 pm
by kostmayer
Also, assuming the Bridge is at the usual place at the top of the ship, wouldn't the saucer section pretty much block half your view?

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:35 pm
by Nutso
Rochey wrote:
Who was the guy who hated the exposed bridges? A huge window on an exposed bridge is going to give him a coronary when he sees this.
:wave:

For the record, I also hate windows on starships as well. So this is like double the stupidity.
Oh. :D How you holding up?

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:56 pm
by Mikey
Wait until we tell him that the window is actually made of cellophane.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:13 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Mikey wrote:Wait until we tell him that the window is actually made of cellophane.
Ha! That's nothing, did you know that her spaceframe is wooden? :P

I knew she was a single-nacelle ship when I saw the pic in the other thread. Starfleet has always placed the bridge at the top - even in ships designed for battle (in the 23rd C and later DS9 eras), so stupidity in their past shouldn't be a surprise. Windows? My reaction was similar to Teaos, in addition to the fact the damn thing is fragile (I was always waiting for E-D's bridge skylight window to break). But, exposed bridges and windows look cool! :roll:

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:56 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Some views of the ship I cobbled together :

Image

Windows don't bother me, particularly. Yeah, its dumb. But geez, they've been on every single ship we've ever seen in Star Trek.
I'm afraid I can't get worked up about it after the two hundredth time.

I do love that we finally get a good close up on screen ship with a single nacelle. That "nacelles in pairs" rule Gene invented
always struck me as stupid.

Whoa, that nacelle is fricken HUGE.

Gotta say, I would have expected the nacelle to be above and hull below. I guess they wanted to distinguish it from the
Enterprise, but I think this design would work better the other way up. Shades of the Reliant mixup here.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:40 pm
by Sionnach Glic
The size of the nacelle doesn't surprise me. It's doing the work of what would otherwise be two smaller ones.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:21 pm
by Lt. Staplic
windows haven't ever bothered me in trek because of technological advances.

Currently NASA is developing a Plasma window. with magnetic containment the plasma works better at holding atmosphere in, and it's not fragile like glass (or plexiglass, ect...).

By the 24th Century it's likely they'd be able to actually combine the process as well as using forcefields. From the inside it'd be glass, on the outside it's plasma (i'm visioning a double window here like on planes on on the inside of the hull, one outside the hull with 1/2 atmosphere between them to reduce stresses on the windows.) then the glass portion would have a force field generated within it much like a SIF to make it stronger.

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:27 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Well there is also the fact that they have transparent aluminium even in the 23rd century. By the 24th they may have transparent duranium or tritanium or whatever. So really, the windows might be just as strong as any other part of the hull.

That I recall, we've only seen one example of a window breaking in all of Trek - the bridge dome broke in the saucer crashlanding scene in Generations. But given the ride the saucer went through, I tend to be somewhat forgiving of that. Some of the debris that got thrown up on top of that hull looked to be the size of a whole room, at least, and was going at, what, a few hundred miles an hour?

Beyond that... can anybody remember an exterior window breaking? Ever?

Re: Info on the USS Kelvin

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:35 pm
by Lt. Staplic
well, there's Voyager in Year of Hell...
but 2 excuses
1. It was a Year of Hell and it had had the shite beat out of it.
2. It was Voyager :mrgreen: