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I assume the implication about the Breen defeating an entire Klingon fleet under Chancellor Mow'ga in the second klingon empire period (DS9: "'Til Death Do Us Part") , in light of the energy dampening weapon used in the Ds9 series; was that they had it then or some other variant, unless they swamped the Klingons with sheer numbers of vessels, of course there are myriad other reasons, both strategic and tactical that the invasion may have failed.
Leading on from that, i was wondering what you all thought/wanted about the Breen post-Ds9, would they be crippled by severe war reparations, embargoed, would any of Breen space by annexed by Cardassia as compensation, also was wondering if anyone regarded the Breen as still being a threat, now that the energy dampening weapon was countered.
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They would probably have there fleet confiscated but the Federation doesnt seem the type to take territory. The Klingons might anex some territoy off them though.

The most I can see the Federation doing to them is confiscating their fleet seeding them home with a slap and maybe make them help in the rebuilding of planets ruined by war.

The Breen were really never much of a 'major' threat to begin with, without the energy-dampening weapon; they seem to be one of the smaller and less powerful Alpha Quadrant nation-states, and the loss of the Dominion war will probably set them back decades. The Federation may not be the type to annex territory, but you can bet the Klingons and Romulans will do everything they can to humiliate the people who beat them so resoundingly at Chin'toka. That, plus the enormous losses in ships and personnel will probably ensure that Breen won't be doing much conquering anytime soon.

Could have the reverse effect and give rise to military reformists promissing to restore their dignity ala hitler.

Territory is a symbolic issue at best, and more probably a non-issue. The Breen can't populate worlds which are habitable to most other humanoids, and vice verse.

As far as the fleet, I don't think that it poses too much of a threat without the advantage of the energy-draining weapon. Without the Dominion available to them, I don't think that the Breen would have the capability to rebuild a military fleet on a large scale.

Captain Peabody wrote:The Breen were really never much of a 'major' threat to begin with, without the energy-dampening weapon; they seem to be one of the smaller and less powerful Alpha Quadrant nation-states, and the loss of the Dominion war will probably set them back decades. The Federation may not be the type to annex territory, but you can bet the Klingons and Romulans will do everything they can to humiliate the people who beat them so resoundingly at Chin'toka. That, plus the enormous losses in ships and personnel will probably ensure that Breen won't be doing much conquering anytime soon.

They only fought late in the war though, given the huge loses the Klingons had, the ratio may have improved for the Breen. They probably wouldn't win anyway.

Remember technology and numbers only count for so much. Tactics, intellegence and tenacity count for a lot. Something the Breen and Romulans have which makes them very dangerous.

Whether Weyoun was being sincere or not,in countering claims of the frozen nature of the Breen homeworld, the breen clearly have advanced technologies , for instance, which enabled them to function on cardassia prime, as well as the none-descript desert planet of Dozaria,which the breen populated with assorted slaves to mine dilithium, so clearly any deficits in their biology can be overcome via their technological assets.
Also occupying a planet or region of space, may confer strategic, diplomatic and resource advances, rather than being 'symbolic' as a sign of prestige etc. Although the idea of an empires' extent having symbolic value,is a good point, so have to commend you on that.
Personally, i would like to think that the Breen will return to their isolationism, possibly with sanctions or reparations, having rescinded the cardassian planets given by the dominion.
I wonder what Breen-Tholian relations would be like...........

Maybe the Breen will compensate the quadrant powers, by handing out fridge-freezers with the legendary Breen refridgeration technology....but remember....never turn your back on a Breen fridge-freezer. lol
Its my 25th birthday today, so have been into trek, for exactly 14years, when will it end!? lol
take care all

Happy B-day!

I just don't see the Breen being able to (or being allowed to) rebuild a war fleet in numbers enough to become a threat again. Remember - after the war, NOBODY will turn their backs on the Breen again!

Cheers!

But will the Big Three, be willing to engage an a conflict, to forcefully reduce the Breens' military, assuming that the Breen show the same distaste for disarmament as they have shown for surrender(yes we saw them at the peacetable, but you know what i mean, there are degrees of peace and levels of treaties/clauses etc) or more likely will there be a containment policy or buffer zone established?

I wouldn't be suprised if they were the next hostile species. With so little known about them and their unusual technology they would be the best choice of currently known species. Plus we have no idea how much of their forces were dedicated to defending Cardassia. I doubt they'd want to dedicate the bulk of their forces to defending the Cardassian/Dominion Territory when there is the threat of the Federation going after their homeworld after their attack on Earth. The energy dampining weapon may only be the tip of the iceberg of their unusual weapons.

Granitehewer wrote:Maybe the Breen will compensate the quadrant powers, by handing out fridge-freezers with the legendary Breen refridgeration technology....but remember....never turn your back on a Breen fridge-freezer. lol
Its my 25th birthday today, so have been into trek, for exactly 14years, when will it end!? lol
take care all

Happy birthday!

They had some cool ship designs. I'd love to see what's under their helmets.

Personally I'd love to see the Breen get more attention in any new series of Trek. They have a lot of posibilities there.

They would be a ok secindary race like the Ferengi. Ther lack of face limits their character possibility.