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Federation class

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:27 pm
by Josiah Thompson
After browsing through the DITL article about the Federation class dreadnought, I remembered something about a Dreadnought seen in the Star Trek game
Star Trek: Tactical Assault. The game version looked like a refit of the conjectural design on the DITL article, so I'm here to share what I think about it.

Federation class Dreadnought (refit)

Type: Battleship (refit)
Commissioned: 2275 - 2280
Dimensions:
Length - 380m
Beam - 150m
Height - 90m
Decks - 18 decks

Weapons:
20 Type VII phaser bank, total output 10,000 terawatts
6 X 2nd class photon torpedo tubes with 210 rounds

Defences:
Standard shield system, total capacity 800,000 terajoules
Standard duranium double hull
Standard level structural integrity field

Warp Capability:
Normal cruise: 6
Maximum cruise: 7
Maximum rated: 8 for 12 hours

Overall strength index:
272.084

After the success of the Constitution class refits, particularly the USS Enterprise NCC-1701 during the V'Ger intercept mission in 2272, Starfleet decided to upgrade the Federation class dreadnoughts with equally impressive upgrades. Notable improvements include the increase in overall combat capabilities, such as the addition of extra torpedo tubes. The warp engines were also improved to refit standard, and could now operate with better warp field geometry. The most striking change was the primary hull (saucer section) design. The old design was replaced by a new one closely resembling the Miranda class, also incorporating the characteristic "rollbar" and torpedo pod. All 20 starships were refitted and served with distinction until retirement in 2296.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:29 pm
by Josiah Thompson
Most of the specs were from the DITL article - I just tweaked them a little bit to suit a "refitted" starship.

The notes on the refit are based on the afformentioned game Tactical Assault, in which the Dreadnought has tri-nacelles and the Miranda class saucer.

I have tried to stick to the article and semi-canon as close as possible.

Sorry, but I don't have a pic of the ship.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:08 pm
by Mikey
Seems like a logical process to spec it.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:58 pm
by Mark
Here you go, courtasy of trekmania.net

Image

Re: Federation class

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:24 pm
by Graham Kennedy
I have one major problem with the Federation. They have a shuttlebay right underneath the point where the neck joins to the engineering hull. So the bay would have all the lifts, power feeds, etc passing right through the middle of it? Bad design.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:31 pm
by KuvahMagh
On Modern Warships (ie Halifax Class Frigate) the Ammo Rails for a 40 mm Gun run right through one of the Mess's (Sleeping Quarters). They could also route them through the walls...

I don't like the Federation for another reason though, its because of this design that all those stupid fanboys put an extra nacelle onto a ship and call it the Uber Cruiser...

Re: Federation class

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:57 pm
by Mark
There was a TOS novel involving a Federation class (can't remember the title off hand) and if I remember correctly it was supposed to have TIRTIARY shields!!! You'd have to batter down three independant shielding systems before you could even scatch the hull.

The first of the Wanktastic classes :mrgreen:

Re: Federation class

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:17 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Crew quarters is one thing - people can move around things like that easily. But a lift shaft running right through the middle of your shuttlebay?! Towards the front, too, right where the shuttle launches.

Shame, I love the three nacelle look.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:45 am
by Mikey
Don't modern Nimitz-classes have pistons a/o feeds for the steam catapults running through the engine room, etc.?

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:10 am
by KuvahMagh
GrahamKennedy wrote:Crew quarters is one thing - people can move around things like that easily. But a lift shaft running right through the middle of your shuttlebay?! Towards the front, too, right where the shuttle launches.

Shame, I love the three nacelle look.
I don't know easy it is after a 12 hour day in a pitch black room with your com system going off... guy hit both rails and the couch just to find out they were calling the wrong compartment... then he repeated the process on the way back.

But who says they haven't built the lifts and such through the walls rather than the middle of the hanger?

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:06 am
by Abraxas
Mikey wrote:Don't modern Nimitz-classes have pistons a/o feeds for the steam catapults running through the engine room, etc.?
Well, the steam catapults work by pumping steam from the reactor under pressure and then releasing the them... so it's not surprising there would be hardware for each system in different locations.

Or am I missunderstanding your question?

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:43 am
by Mikey
No, I'm jsut saying it incorrectly. I'm sure I saw a docu, though, that showed ginormous pieces of equipment associated with the catapults built straight through other areas of the ship.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:28 am
by Tsukiyumi
Mikey wrote:No, I'm jsut saying it incorrectly. I'm sure I saw a docu, though, that showed ginormous pieces of equipment associated with the catapults built straight through other areas of the ship.
PBS' Carrier shows that quite clearly.

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:34 am
by Abraxas
Thanks for that link!

:angel1:

Re: Federation class

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:39 am
by Josiah Thompson
Moral of story:

AN EXTRA NACELLE DOES NOT MEAN A BETTER STARSHIP.
DON'T LEARN IT THE HARD WAY... LIKE THAT CAPTAIN WHO GOT VAPORIZED BY A POWER STREAM IN A Federation CLASS SHUTTLEBAY