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Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:21 am
by Monroe
I was thinking about how ENT did that whole AIDS thing with the Vulcans only 15 years after when they should have and how they weren't as barrier breaking as TOS was. And I got to thinking about an episode of B5 when the Marcebs came down with a plague that ended up wiping out their entire civilization. Because people associated the disease with corruption they pretended it wasn't ravaging their civilization and in the end it destroyed them. Which is kind of a big deal as B5 is fairly low on the alien count-o-meter. Well it wasn't until a little while later did I realize that episode was a huge metaphore for the AIDS virus and the episode was on air in 1995. If Trek had handled AIDS in '95 maybe that would have been a barrier pushing episode too.
Just another reason why B5 writers rock.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Very true.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:37 pm
by Deepcrush
Here here!
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:34 pm
by Monroe
Another thing I noticed was Ivanna and Taira or whatever the Psy officer's name was were lovers o.o They never came out and said it but there's a lot to indicate that. And to my knowlwedge that was the first mainstream Sci-Fi that had a lesbian relationship.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:50 pm
by Aaron
Monroe wrote:Another thing I noticed was Ivanna and Taira or whatever the Psy officer's name was were lovers o.o They never came out and said it but there's a lot to indicate that. And to my knowlwedge that was the first mainstream Sci-Fi that had a lesbian relationship.
It's recognised that Ivonava was Bi but there is nothing explict in the show.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:55 pm
by Reliant121
I think Ivanova is one of the best characters there, without question.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:36 pm
by Nutso
I didn't even realize that. Good point Monroe.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:51 pm
by kostmayer
Thats what I always loved about how they handled the issue - they didn't flaunt it, or even hint at it really. There's only 2 scenes I can think of where any reference is made to it.
Re: Marcebs did what ENT did not?
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:12 pm
by Monroe
kostmayer wrote:Thats what I always loved about how they handled the issue - they didn't flaunt it, or even hint at it really. There's only 2 scenes I can think of where any reference is made to it.
Aye. When she had to tell Delenn a secret and the last episode with Winters in it when Winters reached across the bed to find Ivanna missing after that sexual pause as they looked at each other.
I wouldn't have minded seeing that >.<