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Gene Hackman his wife of over 30 years and one of their dogs was found dead on Wednesday. Gene was in a different room and his wife was in the bathroom. They appeared to have died awhile.

They did look into monoxide poisoning and found no leaks. So now it's a mystery now.

Gene was 95.

Yeh, two other dogs are still alive, which is odd. The fact that she is quoted as being "Slightly mummified" is particularly odd.

IanKennedy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:43 am Yeh, two other dogs are still alive, which is odd. The fact that she is quoted as being "Slightly mummified" is particularly odd.

Yeah. This I will keep my eye on for updates.

It's very odd and disturbing what may have happened to them.

They are still trying to figure it out. Sounds like Hackman had a cardiac episode as he has a pacemaker. They were able to find out it stopped working 9 days before his body was found.

His wife presumably saw him collapse or on the floor and tried to grab his medication. She dropped dead getting that medication. There was a space heater and my theory is that the space heater electrocuted her and the dog. Those things are known to not only cause fires and it can electrocute people.

It's a good theory, an autopsy would easily identify that. Electrical sockets are not allowed in bathrooms in the UK. The only exception is a low wattage razor charge socket, which is of a different design from any other power plug in the UK.

IanKennedy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:24 am It's a good theory, an autopsy would easily identify that. Electrical sockets are not allowed in bathrooms in the UK. The only exception is a low wattage razor charge socket, which is of a different design from any other power plug in the UK.

Here in the US it's required to be GCFI outlets. They are designed to be against these sort of things. Also the rule is to be 3 feet away from water sources. These outlets are also placed in kitchens as well.

GCFI outlets will automatically trip for alot of reasons but imagine just having an outlet with a circuit break built into it. They are resetable easily enough with a button.

Our electric sockets are the safest in the world but are still not allowed in bathrooms. An earth pin is fitted to every plug and makes contact before the life and neutral pins are allowed to even enter the socket. Every outlet has to be fused, as do just about every individual plug. Only qualified electricians are allowed to work on electric installations in bathrooms and kitchens. Well I say that but you can do it yourself, but a qualified electrician would then have to sign it off before the mains would be connected. Even light switches are not allowed inside bathrooms unless they are mounted on the ceiling and operated by a pull string. Typically light switches are outside the bathroom door. We do have outlet in kitchens.

Getting back to the Hackmans. Oddly, I think I heard that the dead dog was found in a cupboard.

IanKennedy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:01 am Our electric sockets are the safest in the world but are still not allowed in bathrooms. An earth pin is fitted to every plug and makes contact before the life and neutral pins are allowed to even enter the socket. Every outlet has to be fused, as do just about every individual plug. Only qualified electricians are allowed to work on electric installations in bathrooms and kitchens. Well I say that but you can do it yourself, but a qualified electrician would then have to sign it off before the mains would be connected. Even light switches are not allowed inside bathrooms unless they are mounted on the ceiling and operated by a pull string. Typically light switches are outside the bathroom door. We do have outlet in kitchens.

Getting back to the Hackmans. Oddly, I think I heard that the dead dog was found in a cupboard.

Standards have gotten stricter here over the years for new houses.

Older houses, it was like the Old West. Having aluminum wiring up until the 70's. No ryhme or reason how the electrical blueprint for a house would be set up. If the house is old enough chances are previous owners would do their own bullshit additions to that. So now an outlet that is located for example in the master bedroom is run off of the basement circuit breaker.

Just like for example the house fire months ago where we found out one outlet was run off of two circuit breakers.

Though I have never seen an issue with a light switch in a bathroom. I mean those are usually high up like five feet from the ground, typically far enough from sinks or showers. Usually also placed next to the door. Personally never heard of an issue with the light switch. Outlets? Yes.

Back to Gene, from what I have heard the dog was in a crate or cage when found dead. I mean, reports says Gene Hackman and his wife died nine days before being found. So, possible the poor dog just died from lack of water and food.

I was just about to say, they misidentified the dog and it was in a crate not a cupboard, as previously reported. Which kinda explains why it was dead and the others not. Poor dog.

In terms of light switches, the idea is that you can’t cause a problem by operating them with wet hands.

IanKennedy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:44 am I was just about to say, they misidentified the dog and it was in a crate not a cupboard, as previously reported. Which kinda explains why it was dead and the others not. Poor dog.

In terms of light switches, the idea is that you can’t cause a problem by operating them with wet hands.

Yeah the dog being in a crate for nine days makes sense.

I don't know what kind of light switch you guys got over there but between the face plate being tight around the switch and the switch being plastic, there would really have to be some sort of Final Destination type of event to get zapped by a light switch.

They're pretty good switches, however water will get in anywhere given enough time. To be honest they switches are just on the other side of the wall outside the door.

Everything about our electric system is based around safety, Virtually every plug is fused, right there in the fuse. The circuit is fused, the pins can't make live contact before the earth is fully connected. Sockets have to have covers over the live and neutral holes which only open when the earth is connected, you can't poke a fork in.

Well here. Light switches are typically placed high and away from water to begin with. The only way that light switch would be dangerous is without the faceplate. Even with high moisture in a bathroom with a shower.

Also we have outlets out now that have plastic shields within the outlet that won't let water in and they are a bit of a pain to plug something in. Does require a bit of strength.

As far as plugs that is a old argument. Here the debate is the orientation of the outlet. Since ours looks like a face, some place the ground on the top so the face is upside down. Whereas others prefer it the face right side up, where then argument is what happens if something falls in between the plug and outlet.

Anyway back to Gene Hackman.

His wife died from a disease from rat droppings back in February 11th which explains her mummification. Gene Hackman had advanced Alzheimer's and cardiovascular event. So basically, his wife was his caretaker. His wife died, he couldn't take care of himself anymore. Lived for a week and then died.

Yes, so sad. It could also explain why a dog was in a grate but again there being talk of it also being in a cupboard. Alzheimer’s sufferer could easily do something that odd. He likely wasn’t taking his medication let alone feeding himself.

That’s a pretty horrific way to go….