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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:08 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Is it just me or do good guys always have a technological advantage of somesort over the bad guys. I cannot be the only noticing that trend.

I wonder if we'll ever see these ships again. After Nemesis's new ships I doubt that the guys would settle for anything not as flashy.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:09 pm
by Mikey
in re: "massive waste of space"

Don't forget that the D'Deridex is the size it is simply because the Romulans wanted it to be that big. There is a huge amount of wasted space - before we say "that ship is outclassed by a Fed ship of the same size," we should remember that we are not comparing USABlE space.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:40 am
by Teaos
Maybe they decided that was the size they wanted. They then had two choices. Make a bunch of it pretty much empty with just crew quarters and the like. Or pack it with weapons and stuff. The second option makes it powerful but also takes lots more resourses limiting the number they can build.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:44 am
by Mikey
There has also got to be a "critical mass" of sorts as to how massive a ship can be for a given nacelle/engine size.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:13 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Mikey wrote:There has also got to be a "critical mass" of sorts as to how massive a ship can be for a given nacelle/engine size.
For a single set of engines. However multiple engines could increase size potential. The Borg seemed to do that with their non-centralized system approach. Multiple small warp field projectors could manipulate the warp field, extending the field to larger sizes.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:58 am
by Black Jesus
Mikey wrote:I agree; the point remains, though, that the D'Deridex does have a good deal of separation between the main hull and the nacelles.

How is that when the main hull(s) ARE the nacelle struts? There's space between the nacelles themselves but not when going ventral to dorsal. How then is the D'Deridex not an integrated design?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:04 am
by Teaos
The Akira has a partial intergration as well but it is still seperate.

I think it would be partial intergration.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:03 am
by Mikey
How is that when the main hull(s) ARE the nacelle struts? There's space between the nacelles themselves but not when going ventral to dorsal. How then is the D'Deridex not an integrated design?
"Integrated design" simply means that the nacelles are part of the same ship. I'm not sure I understand your question; a given amount of space is a given amount of space, no matter what directions in which you measure.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:30 am
by Bryan Moore
Nova, system survey. Small crew (made up of people I'm close with) on a 1ish year mission.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:53 pm
by Thorin
Borg Tactical Cube.

Mission: assimilation.

:wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:48 am
by Teaos
The Phoenix

First warp flight

FAMOUS

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:03 am
by JudgeKing
Prometheus Class, tactical mission

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:57 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Teaos wrote:The Phoenix

First warp flight

FAMOUS
lol. Hey, me and Zefram have something in common. We both don't like flying.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:59 am
by Duskofdead
Endgame Intrepid, set a course for system J-25!

Okay, in seriousness..

I have always thought the Steamrunner was a damn cool looking ship. I know that Graham places it as sort of an older, weaker design but of course "really" we really have no clue what this ship's role is or anything about it. Regardless of registry numbers or where along the timeline we "guess" this ship was created, to me it looks like one of the most sophisticated ships in Starfleet-- easily in the same style vein (angular, sleek, coloring) as the Sovereign but of a different shape and design direction. I was bummed out that in Star Trek Armada (I and II) they made it a fictional "artillery" ship, I would have much rather had it with traditional phasers and torpedoes.

In my "mental image" of the Steamrunner, it's a very quick ship with a respectable armament for its size and a fair amount of automation (the relatively small hull and the whitish coloring somehow just reminds me of the Oberth, plus it looks cutting edge so I just picture it having a lot of self-running systems) making it highly self-sufficient for long duration deep space missions. Mmm... regenerative shields. Okay, back on topic... full on, deep space exploration.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:46 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
The Sabre-class ship is cool, mostly from the SCE novels.