Fleet upgrades - Pick your fleet & tell us what you'd re

Post by **Teaos** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:00 pm

Why scale up a Nova to Intrepid size? It would BE and intrepid then.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:50 pm

Nova is to small and to slow and intrepid looks stupid.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:05 pm

Welcome to the forum!

As to starfleet's tech and the sov. They could have just outfitted her with only QTs which would have made more sense.

The GCS biggest problem is that she has become under gunned for the time period. They need to upgrade her to what we've seen in "All Good Things" I agree with you on bettering their speed. It would be nice for them to keep up with the sov's in war time.

Akira's well - I would forget the fighter out load and unless you plan on building some halfway capable attack craft (Delta flyers as fighters maybe!?) I would also want to put on about 20cm of ablative armour. Type XII phasers if she can support them as well.

I would forget the sabers and just build Defiant class ships. But I like your idea of having massive numbers of support ships. It mirrors my own view of starfleet.

I would also think that Nebs would be better then the GCS as a flanking ship to the Sov since there are so many more of them. Just a thought, I like your thoughts of a trio of heavies to protect each of the sovs.

A thousand novas? I would think that you could build those and just not need anymore after that if science is their sole function.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:39 pm

Welcome, Snoopy.

I agree with Deep - your idea of composition ratios makes a lot of sense, in the sense of having actual wet navy-type battle groups or task forces. I don't think you need to replace certain models with scaled-up versions of others, but if that suits your aesthetic sense, so be it.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:16 pm

I forgot that Akira is ment as a carrier, using fighters anything under the size of the bugfighter is stupid in ST. I like the look of the Saber class is more starfleet that is why I want to give him the Defiant weapons.

I left out the Nebulas beacuse I think that they can not be upgradet to the same level than the GCS. And Akira can take its place.

And ablative armour should be standart on every ship after the end of the Dominion war.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:17 pm

I forgot that Akira is ment as a carrier

Well, so the conventional wisdom goes. I, for one, don't consider it so, because we have never seen fighters in 'Trek in the roles that fighters SHOULD have; and more to the point, we have never seen an Akira-class launching fighters.

And ablative armour should be standart on every ship after the end of the Dominion war.

Absolutely, positively, most assuredly, 110%, definitely right.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:45 pm

The neb has the same upgrade ablities as the GCS, maybe even more so. The weapons pod plus the smaller shield bubble makes it a great heavy cruiser choice. Type XII phasers, QTs, ablative armour, cloaking device and smaller crew req all together make for a fine ship. The akira is more of a stand off and shoot missile ship which is most likely close to the role of the lakota class since they both make up most of their firepower it PTs or QTs.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:01 pm

Nova is to small and to slow and intrepid looks stupid.

Thats just silly. A scaled up nova would do the same job as an Intrepid so there is no point in doing it. The Nova was made small for a reason.

Oh and Depp your usual comment of "Just slap a few more inchs of armor and only QT's on" lack imagination and the fact that there is a very good reason QT's arent everywhere... they are new and rare. Why wouldnt they be eveywhere if they could be.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:28 pm

Because its an UPGRADE! We can put whatever we want on it. QTs are rare, really, no say it ain't so doc! DUH! If I'm going to spend the next twenty years rebuilding my fleet then I'm going to pick the best that we have. Imagination? What does that have to do with anything? I just like the idea of a ship of war having weapons and armour. Why does that bother you? If you had to pick either a M1A1 or a VW beatle which would you want for war? If you can have the best then take the best. But thank you for the useless help.

Post by **Teaos** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:13 am

It may be very wise to keep a PT tube or two on ships for situations were a QT is just to much.

I also stick by my theory that you cant just slap more armor on and other things with out limiting th size of your fleet. I think it would be better to build ships better fitted to their rolls than try to improve standard ships.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:26 pm

Do we know that PT tube can't fire QT.
Can a crew make PT on a ship.

Post by **Teaos** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:32 pm

Yes they can other wise Voyager would have run out long ago.

For what we've seen a PT tube con not fire a QT but a QT can fire a PT.

Post by **Mikey** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:51 pm

mlsnoopy wrote:Do we know that PT tube can't fire QT.

Perhaps not for certain, but I think it's a safe assumption because we've only ever seen QT's fired from tubes that were known or designated specifically as QT launchers.

And we've seen one or two people make drastic mods to a PT, so I think we can say that a crew can manufacture them.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:36 pm

If a crew can make PT and QT must be delivered to the front it makes sense that we see so few QT. They are used on the most important ships.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:55 pm

Very true but every ship in the fleet should now be built with QTs in mind. QTLs can fire both QTs and PTs. So now QTLs should become the standard.