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Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:40 pm
by Captain Seafort
Or if there's no other way to destroy the ship than by manually detonated explosives or a phaser to the warp core - it's his ship, therefore it's his responsibility.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:35 pm
by Deepcrush
Or if there's no other way to destroy the ship than by manually detonated explosives or a phaser to the warp core - it's his ship, therefore it's his responsibility.
I agree, it is his resposibility to care for or destroy his ship. Losing the ships captain, the person who is most likely the best of the crew is still never a good idea. If the need comes then its his resposibility to leave someone behind to destroy the ship. A captain is hard to replace, an avg crewman or marine, no so hard to replace.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:44 pm
by mlsnoopy
But what should you do if you see your ship destroyed. And the sensors show the ship destroyed. Than you basicly think that the ship was destroyed.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:03 pm
by Deepcrush
He should have confirmed that the ship was destroyed beyond repair.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:59 pm
by Mark
An expanding debris field is usually a good sign.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:46 am
by Mikey
:lol:

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:24 am
by Deepcrush
And a lack of one is a good sign to the other side of things.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:34 am
by Mark
Exactly. You'd figure you'd pick one up OR the lack of one up on even shuttle sensors.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:02 am
by Deepcrush
But then this is SF we're talking about.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:11 am
by Mark
Oh yeah. Damn, I forget about that sometimes. Common sense ain't all that common with those folks, huh? :mrgreen:

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:16 am
by Deepcrush
Not for TNG, common sense was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:14 pm
by Sionnach Glic
But what should you do if you see your ship destroyed. And the sensors show the ship destroyed. Than you basicly think that the ship was destroyed.
He didn't see the ship destroyed. That's exactly the problem. He just cheerfully assumed it was so.

Honestly, I believe in the last thread we had on this, we made an entire list of methods that Picard could have easily done to ensure the ship's destruction.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:40 pm
by mlsnoopy
He just cheerfully assumed it was so.
But what was his assumption based on.
Honestly, I believe in the last thread we had on this, we made an entire list of methods that Picard could have easily done to ensure the ship's destruction
It's not how could he have destroyed the ship, but why he thought the ship was destroyed.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:39 pm
by Captain Seafort
mlsnoopy wrote:It's not how could he have destroyed the ship, but why he thought the ship was destroyed.
He didn't . When relating the battle to the E-D's senior officers he described the Stargazer as "on fire, finished", but his final log entry read "We are forced to abandon our starship. May she find her way without us." The latter suggests that while the ship was badly damaged and rendered uninhabitable, she wasn't in serious danger of being destroyed, and not only did Picard make no effort to ensure that she was, he didn't consider it important. The man's an idiot.

Re: Cardassian Ship Technology

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:23 pm
by Mikey
There's the rub. If he had assumed that the ship was (or would soon be) destroyed, the problem is a simple case of holding to an assumption without verification.