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Now, I'm just guessing here, I would imagine that Sisko and his crew would know right where to hit it to disable the weapons most efficiently. If it was a Dominion crew, the outcome would likely have been different, IMHO
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Sisko seemed to disable the Centaur pretty easilly, even only targeting her weapons
Given that you can take out the weapons on most Fed ships by targetting one single spot on the hull, that's not too surprising.
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Knowing where to hit isn't much help if you can't get through the shields. The fact that the bug disabled the Centaurs weapons in a couple of shots shows that its weapons are powerful enough to do so.

I agree that the outcome with a Jem'Hadar crew would have been different - the Centaur would have been destroyed.
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Ah, I thought you meant when the shields had already been downed. Never mind then.
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But what kind of a Captain would attack a ship that significantly outgunned him if he didn't have to. Remember, the Centuar engaged the bug, in deep space where it could have easily been avoided. Why would they do that if they didn't have a reasonable expectation of winning?
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Tell me Mark, have you ever heard the story of Cochrane and the Speedy?
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Captain Seafort wrote:Tell me Mark, have you ever heard the story of Cochrane and the Speedy?
I don't believe so? We talking about Trek's Cochrane?
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I don't think so.
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Captain Thomas Cochrane was a Royal Navy officer during the Napoleonic Wars, with something of a reputation as a firebrand. On one occassion he took his ship, HMS Speedy (14 guns) up against a Spanish frigate - the El Gamo (32 guns). He was outnumbered by more than 2-to-1 in guns, considerably greater than that in weight of broadside, and 6-to-1 in men. The El Gamo was captured. That's not to mention another Napoleonic RN Captain's famous "patented bridge for boarding First Rates"

The moral of the story? Good Captains in good ships have a habit of taking on greatly superior opponents and winning.
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I see your point.
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I don't think that the Centaur's relative weakness is in question - I would imagine she was designed as more than a picket or outrider-type, not a "ship of the line" as it were. Still doesn't mean it's a true "Frankenstein."
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Mikey wrote:I don't think that the Centaur's relative weakness is in question - I would imagine she was designed as more than a picket or outrider-type, not a "ship of the line" as it were. Still doesn't mean it's a true "Frankenstein."
I think the reason he classifies it as a Frankenstien is scale, most of the parts are completely out of scale with each other and he describes it in the article in more detail IIRC.
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I've read Bernd's analysis. I just happen to disagree. I actually thought it had a proportioned and graceful, if fragile, look.
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Mikey wrote:I've read Bernd's analysis. I just happen to disagree. I actually thought it had a proportioned and graceful, if fragile, look.

Which would fit the "era" the ship looks to have been constructed for
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My definition of a Frankenstein is any ship made by kitbashing parts from different classes. Simple as that.

By that standard the Centaur most certainly is one.
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