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Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:33 pm
by Tyyr
I don't see any reason why they'd change that. Though far as I can recall they haven't established it one way or another yet.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:42 pm
by Sonic Glitch
http://ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ ... t.htm#size And now Bernd over at EAS comes out with this. Pick your length.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:09 pm
by Tyyr
Care to cross post the size(s) he came with? The work filter catches EAS but not DITL.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:14 pm
by Aaron
Tyyr wrote:Care to cross post the size(s) he came with? The work filter catches EAS but not DITL.
He's keeping the length of 300 meters, despite coming up with similar figures to the official ones because he is...bitter, basically. Considering he's got "unrebooted since 1998" at the bottom of his pages, it's safe to say he's pissed.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:50 pm
by SuperSaiyaMan12
Cpl Kendall wrote:
Tyyr wrote:Care to cross post the size(s) he came with? The work filter catches EAS but not DITL.
He's keeping the length of 300 meters, despite coming up with similar figures to the official ones because he is...bitter, basically. Considering he's got "unrebooted since 1998" at the bottom of his pages, it's safe to say he's pissed.
Yeah, that's about right.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:13 pm
by Tyyr
After getting a look at the shuttle bay and main view screen I don't see any reasonable way to get a length like that.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:31 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Hell, just looking at the shuttlebay pic he has there is enough to show that the thing is pretty damn big.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:33 pm
by Aaron
Tyyr wrote:After getting a look at the shuttle bay and main view screen I don't see any reasonable way to get a length like that.
There isn't, thats the point. He's taking a stand "against the man" by deciding to keep the 300m length, as if Abrams or Paramount gives two craps what he thinks.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:41 pm
by Tyyr
That's just stupid. I can see bitching about it, asterixing the numbers but...

Well I guess the question is:
Is he actually trying to use math to confirm a 300m length or just saying fuck you it's 300m long no matter what?

If it's number 1, wow. If it's number 2, that's his prerogative.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:44 pm
by Sionnach Glic
If it's number two, then he'd be better off just ignoring ST:XI completely, and not doing anything on the subject. If he's going to just ignore what the new film shows, then he's simply ignoring canon because he doesn't like it. So what else will he ignore on the basis of not liking it?

I've not checked out EAS in a long time, but isn't their forum one of the handful screaming about how nTrek is the devil incarnate?

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:49 pm
by Aaron
Rochey wrote:If it's number two, then he'd be better off just ignoring ST:XI completely, and not doing anything on the subject. If he's going to just ignore what the new film shows, then he's simply ignoring canon because he doesn't like it. So what else will he ignore on the basis of not liking it?

I've not checked out EAS in a long time, but isn't their forum one of the handful screaming about how nTrek is the devil incarnate?
Yup.

He goes with number 2, he admits on his page that 300m doesn't jive:
BS on EAS wrote: But indeed, after further inspection of the various features of the ship, the windows on a 300m alternate Enterprise would be just 50cm tall. The docking ports would measure only 1.5m. This is smaller than on Probert's Enterprise refit, on which parts of the new design, most obviously the saucer, are based.
All this reminds me of the hub-bub over nBSG, when people bitched about Starbuck having TEH BOOBIES, rather then more legitimate complaints about the crap plot, character back stories and Cylon motivations.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:55 pm
by Tyyr
Well, if he doesn't like it he can not like it. At least he admits the math doesn't support him.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:10 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
His inconsistency page is somewhat... I don't know. A lot of it is bitching about the getting together of the crew.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:45 pm
by Nickswitz
So he doesn't like the way the world spins, that sucks for him.

Re: Stats/Information on the new Enterprise

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:35 pm
by Tyyr
I read his article. His argument is, "I don't like the size so I'll ignore the only hard evidence we have on its size and use a bunch of personal preference and facts based on totally different universe as to why I'm right."