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Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:34 pm
by Sonic Glitch
stitch626 wrote:Not only is that equation oversimplified (and incorrect), Torque is not M. It is... um, I don't know how to do greek letters on the keyboard.
Tau. It's a capital T with a squiggle on top instead of a straight line.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:37 pm
by Captain Seafort
stitch626 wrote:I don't know how to do greek letters on the keyboard.
If I need greek symbols I cut and paste from word - go into Insert/Symbol, and you should be able to find anything you need.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:39 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Or look "torque" up on wiki, it should have the mathematical symbol there.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:44 pm
by Mikey
I'm not positive, but I think snoop used the formula for moment, not torque. Anyway, how can you use that in this case? "Subspace" anything obviously doesn't follow any known RL physical laws.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:49 pm
by stitch626
I don't care what he used, he applied it to torque.
But I fully agree on the subspace part.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:35 pm
by Tsukiyumi
"Subspace torque" indeed.
"Captain, we just threw the subspace flywheel! The subspace drivetrain is grinding against the warp field!"
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:01 pm
by Mikey
"Well, captain, we'll get lower economy but better take-off and towing capacity if we put in a 4.10:1 rear subspace axle ratio."
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:38 pm
by Deepcrush
ST just died a little more......................
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:46 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Well, the writers are the ones who started tacking "subspace" onto automotive terms, not us.
Don't they also have "subspace manifolds"?
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:00 pm
by Mikey
Yep. I'm just waiting for the "subspace supercharger."
It would have to be an old-school one, though, with a big blower with butterfly valves sticking up out of the warp core.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:54 pm
by Deepcrush
Oh, thats just a plasma vent...
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:03 am
by Aaron
I have a vision now of the Defiant with spinning bussard collectors, chrome oversized exhaust, a wing on the back and the shuttle bay taken up by subwoofers.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:09 am
by Tsukiyumi
Cpl Kendall wrote:I have a vision now of the Defiant with spinning bussard collectors, chrome oversized exhaust, a wing on the back and the shuttle bay taken up by subwoofers.
Exactly. And, it
has to be neon green.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:24 pm
by mlsnoopy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque
wikipedia wrote:The force applied to a lever multiplied by its distance from the lever's fulcrum, the length of the lever arm, is its torque. A force of three newtons applied two meters from the fulcrum, for example, exerts the same torque as one newton applied six meters from the fulcrum. This assumes the force is in a direction at right angles to the straight lever.
See no spinning.
Torque is not M
"The concept of torque, also called moment"
Yes it is. Its the same basic thing.
Re: OVEG: Threshold Is Up
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:43 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I see you counted on us all just taking your word and not clicking the link itself.
The very first line of that wiki article wrote:Torque is the tendency of a force to rotate an object about an axis[1] (or fulcrum or pivot). Just as a force is a push or a pull, a torque can be thought of as a twist. The symbol for torque is Ï„, the Greek letter tau.
Rotation = spinning
"The concept of torque, also called moment"
Yes it is. Its the same basic thing.
That wiki article you hoped we wouldn't read wrote:In the context of mechanical engineering, the terms "moment" and "torque" are not necessarily interchangeable; rather, one or the other may be preferred in a specific context. For example, "torque" is usually used to describe a rotational force down a shaft, for example a turning screw-driver, whereas "moment" is more often used to describe a bending force on a beam