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Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:59 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Agreed. Further proof that people in TOS had common sense.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:58 pm
by Deepcrush
We need TOS style Trek back. TOS style with someone like Kirk commanding the USS Paladin... :twisted:

That would be so awsome! :happydevil:

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:10 pm
by mlsnoopy
Can someone tell me what the point behind the GCS was again...
It looks like a Conni and is similar to the conni and it reminds us of the conni

Right. Againe artist designing war ships :wtf:

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:35 pm
by Deepcrush
The GCS wasn't a warship though. She was a S/E type craft who just had a fair bit of firepower on board.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:40 pm
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:The GCS wasn't a warship though. She was a S/E type craft who just had a fair bit of firepower on board.
A "science" ship with more firepower than the heavy warships of some of the Feds neghbours. And which was consistently used as a warship. And which was described as a "battleship" by her own crew on occassion. Don't start this "it isn't a warship" nonsense again Deep. It's an abyssmally designed warship, but it's a warship nonetheless.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:17 pm
by Mark
But I thought the Federation didn't believe in warships.
Just kidding. Don't hurt me.

:takecover:

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:19 pm
by Captain Seafort
They don't believe in them. Doesn't mean they don't build them.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:40 am
by Deepcrush
Captain Seafort wrote:
Deepcrush wrote:The GCS wasn't a warship though. She was a S/E type craft who just had a fair bit of firepower on board.
A "science" ship with more firepower than the heavy warships of some of the Feds neghbours. And which was consistently used as a warship. And which was described as a "battleship" by her own crew on occassion. Don't start this "it isn't a warship" nonsense again Deep. It's an abyssmally designed warship, but it's a warship nonetheless.
Called a battleship in Y/E, not a source for standard use. The only 'again' here is that pole up your ego stuffed ass... Just like your whole "Odyssey never landed a solid hit" crap with GK. Go take a breather...

Having a tough ship doesn't make it a battleship... :roll:

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:42 am
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:Called a battleship in Y/E, not a source for standard use.
Wrong. It was in "Contaigon", when the crew's personnal and historical knowledge was removed, but their proffessional knowledge was left completely intact. They promtly identified the E-D as a battleship.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:42 am
by kostmayer
True, but Worf promptly identified himself as Captain and Data promptly identified himself as a Bartender. (I wonder if Troi's observation about people acting out their hidden desires in such circumstances applies to those too as well?)

(Also, I think the episode was Conundrum)

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:25 pm
by Mikey
It was "Conundrum." But Seafort's point still stands - they had no recollection of the personal lives, so went by contextual cues to identify their own positions - Worf thought his sash meant cpataincy, e.g. But their professional knowledge - like how to operate, and intuitively, identify the role of - a starship was patently intact, and that collective professional knowledge identified the E-D as a battleship.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:53 pm
by Sionnach Glic
It should also be noted that the crew figured the ship was a battleship after they had looked at its schematics.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:48 pm
by Mark
And after "learning" that they were at war. If they had just lost there memories, but a war was never mentioned, would they have come to the same conclusion?

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:51 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Yes. They looked at the ship's specifications, armament, schematics and capabilities.

Re: Official DITL Miranda Class Starship Appreciation Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:01 pm
by Captain Seafort
They also did that before they "discovered" that they were at war, so that had no influence on their attitude towards the ship.