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Mikey wrote: Don't pin that one on us. You guys are the ones with the rapture stuff. We're still waiting for the FIRST coming, remember?

I means Jewish rapture Christian sects.

Cpl Kendall wrote:now it's selling military secrets to China.

What have they had to say about waiting since the "significant sign" for the last 60 years?

Alright so I googled this business. Nothing really seems to be out there by a group advocating this but somebody found some guy to interview that backs something like what CK is talking about.

Though it sounds like their thing was more about decades ago when the Jews got Israel back. They said the Bible said they'd do that, and before WWII people would have thought it would be laughable that it could happen. Apperantly they got some milage out of this fullfilled prophesy at the time.

They don't think they can jumpstart the rapture with Israel nor do they think this is an indicator that the end of times is particularily near. However some of them give residual support on account of agreeing with the Zionists' claims that God gave them that land so its theirs. And at least one thinks that God will show us favor if we're good to his chosen people. But I have doubts that opinion is particularily widespread.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Evangelicals commonly believe that Palistinians have no claim to the land as God gave it to the Jews. Or at least that they could easily be convinced of this.

Mikey wrote: Actually, he was an American citizen as well, and had his permanent residence in Monroe Township, New Jersey - he was my parents' neighbor in a little retirement community. No, really.

Which one was he involved in? The Lavi, Phalcon or the missile deal?

What have they had to say about waiting since the "significant sign" for the last 60 years?

Probably the same crap the JW's have been saying since 1919, "don't worry it'll come".

Mikey wrote:
As in, decrying Israeli actions of equal intent AND degree as Palestinian actions which he/it has supported. I'm not a big fan of violence in any event; however, I consider it hypocritical to say that an attack on one hand which claims (hypthetically) 15 soldiers and 100 civilians "OK" but a response which claims 100 militants and 15 civilians is "wrong."

What's worse, attacks which claim civilian lives done by diverse and independent partisan groups (all of which are funded by different nations in the ME that hate each other) with no central command or attacks which claim civvie lives done by a nation? Both are "terrorism" but the one that is state sponsered is far more unpalatable because they have the resources of a unified (well more unified than the Palestians) nation and are backed by the only remaining superpower.

That said, I will be relieved when the oil runs out and the ME's usefullness has run it's course.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

Mikey wrote: Actually, he was an American citizen as well, and had his permanent residence in Monroe Township, New Jersey - he was my parents' neighbor in a little retirement community. No, really.

Which one was he involved in? The Lavi, Phalcon or the missile deal?
Probably the same crap the JW's have been saying since 1919, "don't worry it'll come".

Beg your pardon, I was thinking of a different espionage arrest - this guy was giving military nuclear and aircraft secrets to the Israelis:
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/apps/pbc ... 30395/1001

Mikey wrote:
Beg your pardon, I was thinking of a different espionage arrest - this guy was giving military nuclear and aircraft secrets to the Israelis:
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/apps/pbc ... 30395/1001

Ahh, didn't hear about that one.

Hopefully this hasn't been covered, i need to read a lot of this thread still but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hkjSFTbm2A

I think its safe to say he won't be the running mate hahahahahahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jK ... =rec-fresh I found this funny

Monroe wrote:Hopefully this hasn't been covered, i need to read a lot of this thread still but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hkjSFTbm2A

I think its safe to say he won't be the running mate hahahahahahaha

That is fucked up, it is 2008 right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jK ... =rec-fresh I found this funny

Jebus, he's a horrible public speaker. Not GW bad but still bad.