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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:40 am
by Teaos
Remeber that for most of the war Starfleet was losing fast. They were probably throwing everything they could at the front lines just to hold them.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:33 pm
by Mikey
Even if Starfleet was using anything at hand, using those "anything at hand" ships to station at your core worlds would be better than what they're using currently, which seems to be NOTHING!
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:49 pm
by Teaos
But if they dont get through your boarders they dont get to your core worlds.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:57 pm
by Mikey
I agree - that's why you keep your late-model capital ships on the frontiers.
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:53 am
by Gerbsbrother
i don't think it looks very practical in battle unles you plan on ramming your enemy and hoping your ship is so thin it would cut through the enemy
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:24 pm
by Mikey
i don't think it looks very practical in battle unles you plan on ramming your enemy and hoping your ship is so thin it would cut through the enemy
Huh?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:35 pm
by Sionnach Glic
He's saying that from a combat orientated point of view, the design is rather poor.
And I have to agree, a single shot could go straight through the hull.
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:05 pm
by Teaos
I don't like the fact it looks liek the next Generation NX class not 5 models after the Soverign.
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:08 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Just out of curiosity, does the US Navy keep ships stationed in New York harbour? Does New York harbour have any fixed defences - forts, cannon, missile batteries, etc?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:45 pm
by Bryan Moore
Not to my knowledge. There's coast guard there, and a few naval ships, but it's a civilian port. Which pretty much means not a lot.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:50 am
by Teaos
By the time anything gets near NY harbour it would be hit by like a dozen air strikes.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:59 am
by Mikey
The only thing I know of in NY harbor is the aircraft carrier USS Intrepid, which is retired and has been converted into a museum.
As far as the "J" -
#1 - There is very little design evolution apparent from the latest "current" vessels to the J, which really just shows a lack of effort or care - a case all too common with Enterprise.
#2 - Although we can't say what advances in materials technology may have taken place, the fact is that the J looks fragile. However, we have seen that Starfleet likes to have its ships at least appear non-threatening and peaceable in most cases.
#3 - The main reason I don't like it is that it very simple is grotesque - I mean, just plain ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:15 am
by Graham Kennedy
Seems to me that, for the most part, the Navy is stationed where you expect trouble. They aren't sitting around to defend the home ports. Similar with starfleet - ships aren't sitting around at Earth, they are off patrolling the Neutral zone and stuff to try and stop trouble before it gets to Earth.
Of course that falls down somewhat; we can get away with not defending New York because we actually know where the threats are almost certain to come from. Whereas in Trek, brand new baddies pop out of nowhere and threaten Earth on a more or less yearly basis.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:00 pm
by Teaos
Yeah but then to get to earth they have to pass through quite bit of our territory.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:36 pm
by Captain Seafort
Teaos wrote:By the time anything gets near NY harbour it would be hit by like a dozen air strikes.
Anything? Or just military aircraft/vessels from a known hostile power? Because I seem to remember a couple of 767s making rather a mess of New York a few years ago.