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Teaos wrote:My car posted above can out accelerate and out top speed yout 7,200lbs truck any day of the week. My car as 280,000km on the clock and runs beautifully and with minimal maintence, it has only ever needed thing like new air filters/spark plugs ect. It has never been overhauled. And my car is my no means out of the oridinary.

It could maybe keep up with my 3.0L V6 Impala. But it can't carry the stuff I need for two adults, a toddler, and an infant for a weekend trip. It can't tow more than a jet-ski. And as to the size of roads, etc., here's the difference; as I said, my wife has 100-mile round-trip commute. Yes, that's possible in England, NZ, etc. But her commute is on the GSP (Kev knows what I mean) where spending any portion of the trip at less than 80 mph is likely to get you hurt. Her car will last 15 years doing that; a 1.3L I-4 won't.

Here's something that'll blow your minds: I used to sell Chevy and GMC trucks. Now, it's not fair to the conversation, so I won't even talk about the medium-duty vehicles. But in the passenger/retail category, our 3/4-ton and one-ton trucks had as standard a 6.0L gas V-8 - optional engines were a 6.6L high-pressure turbo diesel or an 8.1L gas V8.

Teaos wrote: The only thing you said there that is true is that the small cars get destoryed in crashes. But at least they dont roll over when you take a corner at more the 3 miles an hour

Neither do trucks, if you drove my truck if it werent for how high off the ground you were you would forget you were in a truck, it handles very well and i can slam the e-brake at 20mph and wip it around 180 degrees and not flip it

Teaos wrote: My car posted above can out accelerate and out top speed yout 7,200lbs truck any day of the week.

well, no it can't.....actually top speed yes because at the moment the truck is limited to 99mph, but i have some software on the way to pull that off. but acceleration no, from a stand still my truck will beato yours. 3.73 hears and a torque curve that is almost verticle gets my truck up and moving quick

Heh, I drove a Duramax diesel 2500HD with an Allison 1000 trans and 3.73 rears that put about 5800 lbs.-ft. of torque down where the rubber met the road.

Reliant121 wrote:This is getting dangerously near to the testosterone filled land of my car beats yours. I just dont think thats agreat way to go. On a personal note, I despise huge tanks of a car because their engines might as well be from battleships. It just seems incredibly pointless. However, A lot of American sedan style cars such as the Chevy Impala I quite like. You have rather nicely styled cars. I very much like the Mercury Milan, although for all I know it could be the worst car in the world.

i'll tone it down, you'll have to excuse me, i'm a gear head i like to get into these kinds of arguements and discussions. the milan is a nice car, not very many problems with them. ther share the chassi with the Ford Fusion and the Lincoln MKZ.

with the big engines thing, you have to understang performance in america. the biggest autosport in america is drag racing. See i can drive 30 mins from my house to Atco speedway and race my car/truck.bike for 10$ all night. i can also go watch and see everything from the mildly worked daily driver to the 2,200 HP nitro burning postock cars. that is the idea that fuels perfomance car production here the reason the new mustang does not have an indipendant rear (much to jearmy clarcksons dismay i'm sure, effin prick) is because of this. trucks excluded

Unfortunately, I am stuck in the english world of dizzyingly high insurance and weak engines for the first 10 years driving. My dad suggested buying a Renault Clio with a 1.2 litre engine...

The most popular racing here is all trackday racing really, which involves a heck of a lot of sharp turns and corners. And most of our roads are incredibly bendy since they route back a very long time. I think american roads are mostly grid and straight.

Believe me, I have in fact been allowed to drive on a track day thing (for 14 plus) where I was given the wheel of a (Very) underpowered Peugeot 206 1.1 estate, which was hellishly slow. But it gripped well. It had to. The amount of turns I had to pull in that thing

Kevsha wrote:This is getting dangerously near to the testosterone filled land of my car beats yours.

I don't see it, and what's dangerous about it? We is just talking, is all.

That was me btw.


In the fact that Teaos and Kev are arguing about beating each other off the line.

Mikey wrote:

Kevsha wrote:This is getting dangerously near to the testosterone filled land of my car beats yours.

I don't see it, and what's dangerous about it? We is just talking, is all.

hey, i didn't say that

Tis okay, mikey had a senile moment

Reliant121 wrote: The most popular racing here is all trackday racing really, which involves a heck of a lot of sharp turns and corners. And most of our roads are incredibly bendy since they route back a very long time. I think american roads are mostly grid and straight.

we do that here too, its getting more popular, most drag strips are starting to house these events. SCCA runs most of it

Reliant121 wrote:Tis okay, mikey had a senile moment

Yeah, sorry. And hey - talking about who's car could beat who's is something of a national pastime over here.

We dont really care much tbh. Although mum and dad had a bit of a drag race on the motorway slipway doing different lanes. Dad one. That Hyundai really pulls ass fast when you need it too.

Mikey wrote:

Reliant121 wrote:Tis okay, mikey had a senile moment

Yeah, sorry. And hey - talking about who's car could beat who's is something of a national pastime over here.

indeed it is! i am a member in several car and racing forums... if you think this got alittle out of hand, you havent yet begun to see man-meat waving

The problem we have here in Canada (at least in Quebec), is that while the Asian cars will cost a bit more then its American counterpart, it's a lot more reliable (needs less repairs), will last longer, and is usually built better and looks nicer.

Most people I know who owned both Asian and American cars have now fully switched over to Asian (mostly Japanese and Korean) for the reasons above.
Our speed limit is 60mph (100km/h) but most people drive at 75pmh (125km/h), and whether you have a big car or a small one, what kills you is driving like an idiot and failing to accurately evaluate the speed of the oncoming traffic.
If there were more European-sized cars in America (Canada included), there would be less traffic (if only because smaller cars take less space on the roads ).