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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:48 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Awesome pic... but I disagree with how it should end, there. Just my view is all. ;)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:06 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Here's an idea for an intro voice over for a new last episode:

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With flyby shots of the ship, and while looking over various characters:

"Stories tend to change over time. Video records are lost. Ship logs are altered. Criminals are turned into heros. True heros are lost or turned into the criminals they despise. And the story turns into legend and the legend turns to into myth. But sometimes, an original source will pop up hundreds of years later. Sometimes the original and true story will be so shocking, that it will cause the very thing the alterations were made to avoid. But they also say the truth will set you free. So I will tell you the true story of Enterprise's last mission. This is the true story of how I died."

Ends looking at Trip's face.
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what do you think?

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:10 pm
by Mikey
Sounds great so far... where's the rest? :)

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:51 am
by Mark
I would have used that last episode to close up some of the continuity gaps. Maybe make a vauge reference to this new "Laser" technology that SHOULD will be way more energy efficient than these old fashioned "phase" weapons, maybe mentioning it would take around a hundred years to overcome some inherent problem in the tech (would nicely explain why they went backwards in the weapons race). Touched lightly upon the Romulan war, and used that as a means of fast forwarding some of our character development, (like promoting Travis or Hoshi) and wrapped it up with the founding of the Federation, as told by a VERY old Admiral Archer at the commissioning ceremony of the NCC-1701, fading out with him shaking hands with Captain Robert April.

Something along those lines......................

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:52 am
by Teaos
Thats a lot to do in one episode.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:17 am
by Mark
Good point. I think a six episode story run ending with the hand shake in the final episode would have done it appropriate justice. That way we could have explored things a bit.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:06 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
I am really tired of people and the fraking laser thing. It was retconned in TOS, long before Enterprise came about. The 'Lasers' didn't even act like lasers.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:10 am
by Teaos
How was it retconned? They said there were lasers so there were lasers.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:27 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Teaos wrote:How was it retconned? They said there were lasers so there were lasers.
It was retconned when later episodes mentioned phasers in the era before the Cage. I've gone over this before.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:36 am
by Teaos
And we've gone over the fact that the specific statement that the war was fought with lasers and nukes over rides anything else. Arent you the one always harping on how what is stated on screen trumps anything else?

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:40 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Teaos wrote:And we've gone over the fact that the specific statement that the war was fought with lasers and nukes over rides anything else. Arent you the one always harping on how what is stated on screen trumps anything else?
No, I'm the one who says visuals trump dialog. Spock made a mistake. End of story. Besides, it's hardly the first series to retcon something.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:48 am
by Teaos
It was retconned for no reason what so ever and it makes no sense to do it.

No other series did such a massive retcon in one go. You could argue the Klingons and such were a major change but that happened slowly over three seasons.

This one had no purpose and showed a lack of creativity aon the writters/producers part. ENT was supposed to be wild and new, like a wild west show, instead we got the same old shit. 90% of ENT could of happened on the E-D, thats just pathetic from a "new" show.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:57 am
by Mark
Here here! Tell you the truth, I would have felt better if they would have been using something like those plasma bullets or a high powered magnetic projectile launcher or something. But, I still feel the need to try and expain moving backwards in the arms race

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:10 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Teaos wrote:It was retconned for no reason what so ever and it makes no sense to do it.

No other series did such a massive retcon in one go. You could argue the Klingons and such were a major change but that happened slowly over three seasons.

This one had no purpose and showed a lack of creativity aon the writters/producers part. ENT was supposed to be wild and new, like a wild west show, instead we got the same old ****. 90% of ENT could of happened on the E-D, thats just pathetic from a "new" show.
Well, the laser wouldn't be able to do what the writers wanted. And it wasn't really that massive. "lasers" were only seen/mentioned in two episodes. There was a lot more retconning then that in other series, like the Klingon foreheads which was then screwed up by DS9, which Enterprise had to fix. I suppose if you want to take everything in that episode at face value then Warp drive is a relatively new invention, Spock is emotional, and the captain was a sexist pig.

And it was more like 50% of Enterprise could've happened on the E-D. Starting with season 3 and season 4 they really went down a different road that made it superior to the other series, especially TNG.

Re: How Would You Have Written Enterprise's Final Episode

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:01 am
by Teaos
like the Klingon foreheads which was then screwed up by DS9,
...?

The Klingons foreheads slowly changed from TOS to the TOS movies to TNG to DS9. It was also due to make up reasons that it changed from how it was to how it was intended to be all along. If anything ENT could have done things like railguns ect since they had the CGI tech that TOS didnt.
Starting with season 3 and season 4 they really went down a different road that made it superior to the other series, especially TNG.
Season 3 was some of the worst trek ever made. Season 4 was better, it had good story telling but through no fault of its own it suffered from problems carried through from the other series.