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Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:18 pm
by Mikey
I didn't really miss a big battle at the end. Like some of the others, the only problem I had was Sisko's transubstantiation.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:12 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Funny, I missed the fleet battle, and liked the Prophet's intervention. :)

Q saved Picard's ass more than once, after all - after he'd put him in danger, but still. It's not like non-corporeals can't intervene.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:13 pm
by Mark
Trek is full of non coporials intervining

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:21 am
by Mikey
Tsukiyumi wrote:Funny, I missed the fleet battle, and liked the Prophet's intervention. :)
As we say in the car business, "There's an ass for every seat."
Q saved Picard's ass more than once, after all - after he'd put him in danger, but still. It's not like non-corporeals can't intervene.
It's not the fact of the intervention that I mind - it's the fact that it was used for the summation of the role. Yes, I know all about AGT - but that, as you said, was entirely a self-contained construct of Q's.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:26 am
by Tsukiyumi
Mikey wrote:As we say in the car business, "There's an ass for every seat."
I'll try not to take that as an insult. :lol:

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:37 am
by Mikey
Good. My insults are far less clever and far more direct. :wink:

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:39 am
by Tsukiyumi
:lol:

No subtext for Mikey, eh?

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:40 am
by Mikey
In jokes, yes. In truly-meant insults, I don't have time for games.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:45 am
by Tsukiyumi
:)

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:58 am
by Mark
Heh.......something to be said for directness :mrgreen:

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:27 am
by Bryan Moore
We know the Dominion attacked Betazoid. Clearly the whole planet wasn't a military target, so we can assume lots of casualties there. In the EU, it's alluded that millions died.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:20 am
by Sionnach Glic
We know the Dominion attacked Betazoid.
Of course they did. It was an enemy-held planet.
Clearly the whole planet wasn't a military target,
No, but it was a strategic target. The whole purpose of conquest is just that: to conquer territory.
so we can assume lots of casualties there.
Why? The fact that it had little military assets should actualy imply the opposite: that there were less casualties among the civillian populace. With less fighting, there'd be far less collatoral damage among the cities, causing far less civillian casualties.
the EU, it's alluded that millions died.
The EU says a lot of things, all of which are non-canon.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:16 am
by Teaos
Heres some food for thought.

The Federation, the core worlds especially, seem to depend a lot on replicators. Maybe its just a SF thing but if it is the whole population then they are in trouble.

Considering Replicators can make anything, including weapons, very easily I can't see a occupation army like the Dominion letting the public or anyone really use replicators. This would cause massive food supply problems along with a host of other issues.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:55 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Have we seen replicators make weapons?

If they can, it's possible that certain objects are blocked from being made on civilian models.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:42 pm
by Captain Seafort
Rochey wrote:Have we seen replicators make weapons?
The only example I can think of was "Civil Defence" - part of Terok Nor's counterinsurgency programme was producing a beam weapon in the Ops replicator that targeted non-Cardassian lifeforms.
If they can, it's possible that certain objects are blocked from being made on civilian models.
Almost certain in my opinion - Starfleet aside, we've never seen any evidence of weapons on Federation planets.