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Captain Seafort wrote:One of the hallmarks. Another is having a plot, rather than just things that happen. ASOIAF is the latter.

Indeed, if you ignore the bits that inconveniently contradict that idea. I've read ASOIAF short stories that come to a denouement and realization, much less the novels.

Captain Seafort wrote:That might be the problem - he's thinking of it as a TV series rather than a novel.

This might be true of the upcoming novels, but the original trilogy was set before HBO picked up on the idea. TBH, I was thinking of his much-underrated work on the first revival of The Twilight Zone.

Captain Seafort wrote:Hardly. At the very least The Winter King was published a year before AGoT.

We could be at loggerheads about definitions here until the end of ever. To avoid pointless irreconcilable squabbling over minutiae, let me amend that to say "series of novels" rather than "novel."

Captain Seafort wrote:I haven't. So what? It may be that he's demonstrated better grip in some of his other stories, but not in ASOIAF.

So what is that you said that huge swathes of his books - not some, not books in the ASOIAF series - demonstrate that shortcoming. While I don't see it as the flaw that you do, I will admit the presence of that quality in some of ASOIAF; but it is incorrect to say that it persists through Martin's works.

The girl who says You Know Nothing Jon Snow is my future wife.

Still a hot rabbit.

Extreme gamerz!

Kinda close to the shower.

REAL gamers don't stop to shower.

McAvoy wrote:Kinda close to the shower.

He probably plans to do a weekend long gaming session thing. No shower necessary until the long weekend is over. Thinking about this sickens me.

McAvoy wrote:Kinda close to the shower.

I get the feeling the shower hasn't been used in a long time.

Mikey wrote:REAL gamers don't stop to shower.

What just happened?

WTF is going on?



Pope Cannabis De La Nazi? Next to Cardinal Ordinary Guy? And is that a cheap Darth Maul behind him?

Nutso wrote:

What just happened?

It's the gayness man, it's spreading... we let them marry, now everyone is turning gay!

Actually it's a tradition in football that after the match players exchange shirt tops as a token of friendship. There guys were out of shirts so they exchanged shorts instead. Never seen it before, but there you go.

Why not cleats, or shin guards, or lineup cards, or anything else?