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Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:32 am
by Deepcrush
I think another good ship to take would be the AGT E-D. Replace the rapid fire PTLs with rapid fire QTLs. Add 20cm of ablative armour and improved SIF's. Also swap the type X's for type XII's. That phaser lance is just godly goodness. No civ's on board, train the crew in real warfare tactics and for everything holy GIVE ME SOME DAMN MARINES!
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:54 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Deepcrush wrote:I think another good ship to take would be the AGT E-D. Replace the rapid fire PTLs with rapid fire QTLs. Add 20cm of ablative armour and improved SIF's. Also swap the type X's for type XII's. That phaser lance is just godly goodness. No civ's on board, train the crew in real warfare tactics and for everything holy GIVE ME SOME DAMN MARINES!
So basically turn it into a damn warship. Take a Sov or Defiant then, more then enough weapons to satisfy you.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:28 am
by Deepcrush
So basically turn it into a damn warship.
Yes.
Take a Sov or Defiant then,
Nah, the sov just isn't for me and I wouldn't have enough room for the Marines onboard the defiant.
The AGT E-D was just fun to watch. Plus I love to upgrade ships to extreme and find the limits of how much power I can fit into them. Plus I think an Upgraded AGT E-D would be a fair match for the Sov. Could be a lot of fun to watch the two go at it.
more then enough weapons to satisfy you.
I'm so sorry, we haven't met have we?
I'M DEEP! So very nice to meet you.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:12 am
by Teaos
Replace the rapid fire PTLs with rapid fire QTLs.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:09 am
by Deepcrush
Awwww.... Teaos missed me! How cute that is...!
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:09 pm
by Aaron
ChakatBlackstar wrote:
So basically turn it into a damn warship. Take a Sov or Defiant then, more then enough weapons to satisfy you.
AGT E-D was already obviously a warship, that's not the problem with it. The problem was that they turned the E-D into a fanboys wanktastic fantasy of a warship.
Really, you can't just add a tonne of kit onto a vessel without serious issues. When was the last time we saw a DDG-51 with fifteen 5 inchers?
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:53 pm
by Deepcrush
They added a phaser lance which was most likely powered directly from the warp core and an extra WN. The only internal change was the cloak.
Plus that ship seemed to work fine when they showed it...
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:57 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I'd love to know what sort of stress that big gun put on the hull. I can't imagine something that powerful having little recoil.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:57 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Deepcrush wrote:They added a phaser lance which was most likely powered directly from the warp core and an extra WN. The only internal change was the cloak.
Plus that ship seemed to work fine when they showed it...
Don't be silly, if the phaser cannon was powered directly from the warp core then it would be dead weight during saucer seperation. It probably has it's own fusion generators
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:59 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I doubt it; too inefficient. You'd have to strip out a tonne of equipment to add another generator in there. Factor in the gun's own systems and all the other added weapons, and you have a tonne of stuff you need to cram in. I doubt that ship was designed with separation in mind.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:22 pm
by Deepcrush
Plus, by that point your main concern would most likely be getting away. Not turning back to face the guy who just beat you bad enough that your leaving the Drive Hull behind.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:07 pm
by Aaron
Deepcrush wrote:They added a phaser lance which was most likely powered directly from the warp core and an extra WN. The only internal change was the cloak.
Plus that ship seemed to work fine when they showed it...
HAs the fact that is was an eleborate rush on Q's part for Picards benfit dawned on you?
BTW, nacelles don't generate power. That is the warp reactor and there's no indication that any of that was even possible.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:14 pm
by Deepcrush
HAs the fact that is was an eleborate rush on Q's part for Picards benfit dawned on you?
Duh! For your next trick remember that it is a show and unless told otherwise, what is seen is cannon. Picard saw no problem with the ship or the extra WN. In fact the extra WN could be just a spare or support option. We've covered the whole extra WN bit so many times.
BTW, nacelles don't generate power.
Again, DUH! So glad you're here for that.
That is the warp reactor and there's no indication that any of that was even possible.
Well then, I guess we haven't seen any other class of ship using a third WN? Maybe even a fourth WN?
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:44 am
by Teaos
I doubt AGT-GCS seperated at all. Since it had no civilians on it they would just stand and fight.
Re: You're a Captain,you get to pick your starship. Which class?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:04 am
by Deepcrush
Very possible, we never did see any onboard did we.
Could also be that they don't feel a need for it anymore since that ship was able to eat Negh'vars for lunch!