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Mikey wrote:I think to have identical training to an MD, he would have had to have gone to medical school - not chiropractic school - then served an internship, then residency, etc. I'm not saying he's not both experienced and smart, but similar in scope =/= identical.

From what I understand, he spent 1,500 hours in medical school; I'm not sure where the divergence occurs. In Germany, his medical training would've qualified him to administer drugs; I think it must be some issue of American certification, so I'm unsure what level of study is required of American chiropractors. I've heard some bad stories about unqualified chiros, so your wariness is probably justified, for the most part.

Conversely, Dr. Klein was so good, I was able to learn to adjust myself (to a lesser degree; you have to be extremely careful with the neck), and have almost no back or neck pain.

I'm just saying you shouldn't dismiss it out-of-hand.

My main issue is actually the fact that everyone I know who has seen a chiropractor ends up like a junkie - they all get relief, but have to continue to go back ot hte chiropractor 2-3 times/week indefinitely. I don't have the time or disposable income for that.

I do just fine on my own; though I did learn from an expert. Since my knees are screwed, I lift and carry everything with my back. Simple self-adjustments are usually enough to eliminate the pain. I would not advise anyone to attempt self-adjustment without some knowledge of the procedures, however.

Give acupuncture a shot. Like I said, I've heard good things about it.

Yeah... I will not have pointy objects stuck into me, no matter how bad the pain is.

I have a deep-seated and rather justified fear of needles, so acupunture is pretty much off the table for me.

I have a deep-seated and rather justified fear of needles

Justified?

When I was about two, a nurse broke a needle off in my neck while they were trying to get a sample of my lymph fluid. It took four nurses to subdue me. Clearly, I didn't want the test.

So...did she break it because you were squirming around when you shouldn't have been, or because she was incompetant?

Rochey wrote:So...did she break it because you were squirming around when you shouldn't have been, or because she was incompetant?

Funny. I was two, and some stranger was coming at me with a sharp object. I'd say that was a good time to fight back. Also, "squirming" would be the wrong word; my mom described it as one of the strangest things she's ever seen. Read the earlier post: it took four grown adults to hold me down when I was two years old. I've always been disproportionately strong; it came in handy when people tried to screw with me in school, for sure.

Yeah, I'd say that hurt.

Maybe she was evil and just wanted to hurt you. I've had some nasty nurses when I donate blood.

I give myself four injections a day; if I was phobic of needles, I'd be in a coma AND in a wheelchair, being pulled by my seeing-eye dog, right now... IF I was lucky.

Something I always wondered about. You sometimes hear about people doing IV drugs (heroine ect) sometimes getting collapsed veins from poking to many holes in them. How does this not happen to you? How is your arm not covered in tiny dots?

Tsukiyumi wrote:

Rochey wrote:So...did she break it because you were squirming around when you shouldn't have been, or because she was incompetant?

Funny. I was two, and some stranger was coming at me with a sharp object. I'd say that was a good time to fight back. Also, "squirming" would be the wrong word; my mom described it as one of the strangest things she's ever seen. Read the earlier post: it took four grown adults to hold me down when I was two years old. I've always been disproportionately strong; it came in handy when people tried to screw with me in school, for sure.

I was kinda the same way, Tsu. When I was 6 years old, I cut my knee playing on my dad's La-Z-Boy chair. I was climbing on it from behind, the foot rest popped out, and somehow I jumped and my feet came around over my head, and my left knee slammed into the skinny steel support for the foot rest, splitting it open. When I was taken to the ER, it took several nurses to hold me down while I was strapped into the bed so they could give me an injection. The next thing I remember after that is waking up strapped to the bed and my knee was stitched and bandaged. I heard one of the nurses say I had "retarded strength", and my dad laughing his butt off at that. Now that I think about it, it was pretty funny!

Teaos wrote:Something I always wondered about. You sometimes hear about people doing IV drugs (heroine ect) sometimes getting collapsed veins from poking to many holes in them. How does this not happen to you? How is your arm not covered in tiny dots?

Insulin isn't injected into a blood vessel - it would absorb too quickly and cause a quick and catastrophic hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) reaction. I inject into adipose tissue - fat. I pinch up a little fold on my belly and inject at an angle, being careful to avoid muscle tissue - that would cause the same reaction as above. In theory, I can inject into my butt cheeks or the backs of my upper arms, but it's very difficult to get the angle right. I vary the exact site in a rotation, also, to avoid hypertrophy or bruising.

As far as the dots, I do in fact get "track marks" across my abdomen.