I like that idea.Lazar wrote:GK has suggested that the transwarp drive that the Excelsior had in STIII was a TNG style warp drive.
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"All this has happened before --"
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If so, then I assume it worked
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Probably they would build this stuff, keep it in reserve status and deploy it when the action gets hot. Seen this sort of stuff in DS9 during the Dominion war......Chintoka comes to mind......GrahamKennedy wrote:Given that it's apparently possible to deactivate the defences remotely, they pretty much have to be largely or entirely automated. Simple static minefields don't make a lot of sense in space, but "torpedo mine" equivalents could work, along with automated defence platforms carrying phasers, perhaps a planetary shield system. I think such things are waste of resources myself, but Starfleet may think differently.
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Now this idea has merit new engine new speed scale. to bad they did not do anything more with it after the movieLazar wrote:GK has suggested that the transwarp drive that the Excelsior had in STIII was a TNG style warp drive.
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Re: Terran defence
IU, there may have been no call to reference it. In the US, for example, the paradigm of measuring automotive speed in miles per hour is so commonplace that we speak of going "70," not necessarily "70 mph." Likewise, what would cause a character in TNG to say, "Go to Warp 8 - by which I mean 8 on the new transwarp scale, which was established after the construction of the original Excelsior"?dagadget wrote:Now this idea has merit new engine new speed scale. to bad they did not do anything more with it after the movieLazar wrote:GK has suggested that the transwarp drive that the Excelsior had in STIII was a TNG style warp drive.
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Well Data might....Mikey wrote:
IU, there may have been no call to reference it. In the US, for example, the paradigm of measuring automotive speed in miles per hour is so commonplace that we speak of going "70," not necessarily "70 mph." Likewise, what would cause a character in TNG to say, "Go to Warp 8 - by which I mean 8 on the new transwarp scale, which was established after the construction of the original Excelsior"?
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Re: Terran defence
Did anyone cover the differences in weapons for seafort yet?
Also,
Did the warp scale change between TOS and TNG?
Also,
Did the warp scale change between TOS and TNG?
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It did indeed. If memory serves, in TOS we once heard a refference to going to Warp 15 at one point. As Warp 10 is ludicrous speed by the time of TNG, it seems they've changed it.
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In the "Calculators" section GK has two scales: the "Cochrane" scale and the "TNG" scale...Deepcrush wrote:Did the warp scale change between TOS and TNG?
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Re: Terran defence
Actually I think the only reason this scene occurred was to fulfill the 'obligatory interrogation scene' role.
In other words, Starfleet has no defense grid, as was clearly evident.
Or someone was asleep at the weel...
In other words, Starfleet has no defense grid, as was clearly evident.
Or someone was asleep at the weel...
Re: Terran defence
Don't see how the grid could have posed a threat to the Narada anyway.
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Given that we don't see any evidence regarding its composition or strength, I don't see now you can claim that. We saw that a full salvo from the neoE was enough to inflict serious damage on the Narada, and that's only a starship. Scale that sort of firepower up to something the size of spacedock, or the station we saw in the film, or dozens of neoE-sized platforms, and you're looking at quite a punch.Mark wrote:Don't see how the grid could have posed a threat to the Narada anyway.
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Re: Terran defence
On a ship that just suffered massive damage, yes. Remember this same ship plowed through 47 Klingon warships with no noticable effect
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And? We have no evidence whatsoever of the strength of Earth's defences. If it's designed to hold off thousands of Klingon ships, then the ability to go through 47 (of unknown type) isn't very impressive.Mark wrote:Remember this same ship plowed through 47 Klingon warships with no noticable effect
Plus, of course, we have the fact that Nero was rather keen to get his hands on the codes, suggesting that the defences were indeed strong enough to pose a threat to the Nerada.
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Re: Terran defence
Or that he thought they were. Whose to say he had any clue how strong they were, he may have just wanted them in case they were too strong against his ship.