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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:17 am
by Mikey
Funny thing is all the die hard TOS fans hated it.
I think they felt like the show was somehow taking a potshot at their beloved Spock. I don't think so at all, but...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:29 am
by Teaos
Maybe it was but that hardly matters. The way Vulcans have always been portrayed has been uterly stupid.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:16 am
by Mikey
I agree with you - I'm just trying to figure out why their portrayal in Enterprise has irked some die-hard TOS-ers.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:28 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Mikey wrote:I agree with you - I'm just trying to figure out why their portrayal in Enterprise has irked some die-hard TOS-ers.
I'm not sure, either. I always felt an underlying arrogance in most Vulcans. T'pau, Stonn, T'pring, Solok, Tuvok...

Heck, Spock was pretty danged haughty too on occasion.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:31 am
by JudgeKing
Picard's biggest failing: hipocrisy. He makes all sorts of speeched about the Prime Directive, yet he violates it regularly.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:01 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Pfft, I aplaude him for that. Some of the things the Prime Directive says are completely stupid and disgracefull to anyone with a sense of morals.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:49 pm
by Mikey
I agree with Rochey. At least, unlike Kirk, Picard's decisions to skirt the Prime Directive were based on a clear system of ethics - rather than arbitrary decisions of convenience.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:15 pm
by Thorin
Picard > all other captains.

He does not make mistakes!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:20 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Picard > all other captains.
Close:
Kirk > Picard > all others

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:25 pm
by Captain Seafort
Kirk>Jellico>Picard>all others>Janeway

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:25 pm
by Thorin
Nah. Kirk is of course cooler, but Picard is better in all other aspects.

On the other hand, coolness is the most important factor in how good a Starfleet Captain is.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:27 pm
by Mikey
I hate to admit it, but Kirk is the only one who had a song written about him; by the great third-wave band, the Scofflaws.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:55 pm
by Monroe
Picard's got some songs in the humor section of the forums.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:57 pm
by Aaron
Thorin wrote:Picard > all other captains.

He does not make mistakes!
I'll forgive your ignorance as your too young to have been alive when Kirk was the one and only Captain. Personally I think its Kirk-Picard-Sisko-Janeway-Archer.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:19 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Cpl Kendall wrote:
Thorin wrote:Picard > all other captains.

He does not make mistakes!
I'll forgive your ignorance as your too young to have been alive when Kirk was the one and only Captain. Personally I think its Kirk-Picard-Sisko-Janeway-Archer.
I'd switch Archer and Janeway, myself. Kirk can also outfight Picard and has the devil's luck about him.

Plus he taught the Klingons the phrase 'surrender with honor'. ;)