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As I said, I'm no expert on hte New Testament. But there was another Gospel besides Luke which chronicled Jesus' birth - where did that one say he was born?

Looking it up right now...
Matthew, and it also says Bethlehem.

However, it is possible that in another translation it is refered to by another name. This is because at the time, there were two Bethlehems, and so were occationally refered to by different names.

Could be. I don't think I've ever seen the inside of a King James Bible.

Could be. I don't think I've ever seen the inside of a King James Bible.

Me neither.

And back on topic:
Thinking back to fourth grade (and making myself feel old in the process)...
My teacher insisted that learning to write in cursive would be an esential skill for life.
Outside of school, I've never had to use it.

A few gems from another "star" of the internet.

"It may simply represent the natural order of the dominant humanoids of the [Star Wars] galaxy"

This was referring to the big lumps of metal in Darth Vader's spine.

"The fleet doesn't arrive until pre-dawn on another day"

Referring to SW VI, and this idiot's belief that the rebel fleet (fighters and all) spent days in hyperspace to reach Endor.

"The Millennium Falcon's weapons range is no more than about 200 meters"

'Nuff said

200 meters??? I used target shoot at 250 meters with a rifle. Hmmmm...............................I think I see a small hole

Seafort - these wouldn't be quotes from a certain volatile minimalist author byt hte initials of KT, would they?

I was thinking the same thing.
Of course, I believe something about 3 million clones is high up there too.

How about this moron I used to work with who said;

"Relax. It's not loaded."

Before shooting himself in the foot.

mwhittington wrote:

GrahamKennedy wrote:

stitch626 wrote:Actually, Bethlehem had two names. (according to any historian or Roman times)
Also, Heli and Jacob are the same person. (according to the Roman ancestry books, of which only fragments have survived)

Oh? Care to provide evidence of that assertion?

Heli was Mary's father, and maternal grandfather of Jesus Christ. (Lu 3:23) Joseph's being called the "son of Heli" is understood to mean that he was the son-in-law of Heli. While not listing her, Luke evidently traces the natural descent of Jesus' mother Mary from David.

This is the issue I have with a lot of biblical stuff. "Understood to mean..." basically means "we interpret it this way to make it work". But the question is : How do you know that the interpretation is correct? We're talking about a book that many assert is the infallible word of god here. If the bible claims that a Bat is a bird or a rabbit chews the cud (which it does), and somebody says "well what it actually means is X..." Fair enough if they want to believe that, but it's still just an interpretation. The bible may or may not be the word of god, but human interpretations thereof certainly can't claim to be.

GrahamKennedy wrote:...The bible may or may not be the word of god, but human interpretations thereof certainly can't claim to be.

Damn straight.

stitch626 wrote:
Did Bush actually say those two things?

No, I made mine up. The sad part is, it could just so easily be true though

rabbit chews the cud

Actually this is accurate, and it has been observed by several scientists. I will try to find the article.

Also, as to that bat=bird thing, that was most likely for the benefit of the people at the time.

Unfortunately, the interpretation is what's susceptible to human failings. Do you think that Jerome innocently mistook the Biblical phrase, and really thought that G-d meant that Moses had horns? Of course not - he took advantage of a plausible, if suspect, point of interpretation to demonize a monotheistic faith that presented a threat to a young and unrooted Christianity.

Seafort - these wouldn't be quotes from a certain volatile minimalist author byt hte initials of KT, would they?

Nope. They're from a certain Robert Scott Anderson, alias Guardian 2000, alias Darkstar, alias DSG2K. He's one of the more....extreme members of the Star Wars V Star Trek debating community. He's also the dumbest.

For example, his claim that SW humans are natrualy born with lumps of metal in their spine was an attempt to try and claim SW medical technology couldn't mend spinal damage.
His claim that it took days for the Rebel fleet to arrive at Endor (completely ignoring Leia's "they'll be here any moment" comment) was based on a ridiculously in-depth analysis of the shadows on the ground. This ignores the fact that we know nothing about Endor itself.
His claim that the Falcon's guns have a range of 200 metres (ignoring the fact that AT-ATs were able to fire over seventeen kilometres) was based on the type of camera used to shoot that scene.

In other words, he's the non-furry version of Blackstar.