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Mark wrote:

me,myself and I wrote:

Teaos wrote:Nemesis was fine.

I agree.

Refer to Rochey's nemesis script.

I like it, i can also see why some people think it's trash...and I really like Rochey's script.

It has its flaws but so do most of the movies. Over ll I find it very entertaining, more than I can say for many of the other ones.

May I ask exactly what you two find enjoyable about it?

It was fun to watch, it might not of had the most solid plot but it was enjoyable.

The wedding was fun to watch, the crew just sitting around relaxing like old friends.

The scene on the planet, a bunch of guys playing around with a big beach buggy.

The fight scene was beautiful to watch.

While the dialog its self was not great there was some good acting with it.

The wedding was fun to watch, the crew just sitting around relaxing like old friends.

That bit was nice, I'll give you that.

The scene on the planet, a bunch of guys playing around with a big beach buggy

And violating the PD, despite Picard's constant efforts to uphold it.

The fight scene was beautiful to watch.

Eh? You mean the fight where Shinzon's uber-ship fired the same two guns over and over again? I found that to be a major let-down. Particularly when you factor in the incompetance of everyone involved in that scene.

While the dialog its self was not great there was some good acting with it.

True.

Eh? You mean the fight where Shinzon's uber-ship fired the same two guns over and over again? I found that to be a major let-down. Particularly when you factor in the incompetance of everyone involved in that scene.

Every other time we have seen a ship in combat we see it fire a phaser, maybe two at once, let lose maybe 3 torpedoes.

Even when fighting the Borg they were only tapping away one phaser array at a time.

This the the E-E let lose, Dozens of phaser beams firing, dozens of torpedoes being launched. Fast paced action and multiple ship combat.

Every other time we have seen a ship in combat we see it fire a phaser, maybe two at once, let lose maybe 3 torpedoes.

Yes, but when you're told a ship has 52 guns you expect it to unleash a hail of fire from its armament. Not the same two fracking guns firing over and over again regardless of what position the E-E is in.

But when it has 50 weak guns and 2 strong ones its hardly suprising they use the strong ones.

There was never stated to be any difference between the guns.

Which doesn't preclude their being a difference, does it?

No, but when Worf called out the armament you'd expect him to point out "oh, and only a few of those guns are actualy of any use at all, so there's no need to worry about the other few dozen".
In fact, if there was a massive power difference between the guns to the extent that they don't even bother firing them, then what's the point of building them onto the ship in the first place? It would be a massive waste of resources.

You could ask the same thing of the E-D or E-E; neither one of them fired most of its arrays during most of the battles they were in.

True for the E-D, although it did cut loose most impressively during BoBW, but the E-E seemed to fire all the weapons in could bear in all three films - against the Cube in FC, against the Collector in Insurrection, and against teh Scimitar in Nemesis.

The E-E fired very few phasers in First Contact or Insurrection. It did a more impressive job in Nemesis, but there are still more than a few arrays we have never seen it use.

GrahamKennedy wrote: but there are still more than a few arrays we have never seen it use.

Really? Where? And if we've never seent them in use how do we know they're there?