Federation Battlestar

Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Mark »

Unless the Borg lose the ability to adapt, eventually the Battlestar's weapons would become ineffective.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Deepcrush »

Adaptation seems to have been over stated. As we saw in First Contact. Even weapons that the Borg have adapted to can harm them if the total amount of fire is greater then the power available to defend against the attack.

Plus warheads are warheads. That many QTs of different settings each will overwhelm the Cube's defenses. It takes a few seconds for the Borg to adapt. By the time they adapt to one QT, 240 more will have hit them.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
DarkMoineau
Lieutenant
Lieutenant
Posts: 407
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:03 am

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by DarkMoineau »

And with just twelve Battlestar, we can match every ennemy ship :)

How can they called theses ships?

Galactica, Valkyrie, Pegasus, Atlantia, Columbia, etc... ??

:mrgreen:

And we use a Battlestar group or they fly alone?
If you want to ask me, this avatar is a resized version of "The War Come Home" by Davemetlesits found on DeviantArt
Sonic Glitch
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
Posts: 6026
Joined: Thu May 22, 2008 2:11 am
Location: Any ol' place here on Earth or in space. You pick the century and I'll pick the spot

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Sonic Glitch »

DarkMoineau wrote:
Galactica, Valkyrie, Pegasus, Atlantia, Columbia, etc... ??
"Atlantia, Triton, Solaria, Columbia... The list goes on."
"All this has happened before --"
"But it doesn't have to happen again. Not if we make up our minds to change. Take a different path. Right here, right now."
shran
Commander
Commander
Posts: 1289
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:28 pm
Contact:

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by shran »

Mark wrote:Indeed. I'm not completely sure how we'd mount it on a turret either.
i'd suggest putting everything trequired to make it fire into the turret, save for energy feeds and energy source. that way the turret can rotate faster. Also, give it some leeway and extra long cables underneath the turret so it can spin around multiple times and avoid having to turn back evry so often and can more often perform a short spinning circle. Access hatches could then be distributed at several points of the bases, which rotates, so there can be multiple oppurtunities of it getting in.
User avatar
kostmayer
Captain
Captain
Posts: 2812
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:08 am

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by kostmayer »

How many Starships would it take to bring 960 QT's a minute to bear on a Borg Ship? What was the combined firepower of the Fleet that intercepted the Cube in First Contact.

Just trying to get an idea in my head of how powerful this thing is.
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Reliant121 »

Well, from what I remember of the attack just after Picard ordered the attack, the Nebula opened up with 4 torpedoes, the Thunderchild opened up with 3 torpedoes, a Steamrunner let off 3 torpedoes, the Enterprise let off 3 XII phaser volleys, the Thunderchild again let off 2/3 type X phaser volleys and a Norway let off a couple of phaser shots. EDIT: I cant believe I forgot the Big-E opening up with 3 quantum torpedoes.

However, its worth noting that the fleet had been stated to have worn out her secondary hull...
They have sustained heavy damage to their secondary hull *etc*
The amount of fire the Typhon fleet had managed to unload into it is unknown.
Last edited by Reliant121 on Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Mark »

Well, we have 4 forward facing rapid fire torp launchers, so you'd need 4 Soverigns to match the Battlestar in forward torp power.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Reliant121 »

If we configure the majority of the phaser arrays/turrets to envelop the ship at all angles (port, starboard, bow, stern + dorsal/ventral) then this thing will be almost impenetrable.

Is it possible to have a turret mounted torpedo launcher...Just to give all round torpedo coverage?
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Captain Seafort »

Yep. DS9's turrets were combined phaser/PT mounts.

Image

Image

I recommend, however, that we teach the gunners how to shoot straight. That PT release is a complete waste of ammo.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Reliant121 »

Of course. If we can have a few of these turret blisters along the hull, we've got cover over any smaller strike craft and any big bos.
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Mark »

I think the key point is gunners (plural) SF has this annoying habit of having one officer trying to fire all the ship/stations weapons all at once. I actually think that a team of six gunners with the tactical officer overseeing them would be more effective considering the sheer amount of firepower we are fielding.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Captain Seafort »

Reliant121 wrote:Of course. If we can have a few of these turret blisters along the hull, we've got cover over any smaller strike craft and any big bos.
Agreed. We'd need to modify the arrangements, however. Hiding the weapons inside the station produced a decent scene when they were deployed, but it also adds complexity to the mount, which is to be avoided at all costs.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Reliant121 »

Agreed in concept, however there's the ever fuzzy issue with the whimsical "Warp field dynamics" to keep in mind...Plus having an open raised mount will be quite easy to hit. The pods need to be like armoured turrets used in older warships IMO.
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Re: Federation Battlestar

Post by Captain Seafort »

Mark wrote:I think the key point is gunners (plural) SF has this annoying habit of having one officer trying to fire all the ship/stations weapons all at once. I actually think that a team of six gunners with the tactical officer overseeing them would be more effective considering the sheer amount of firepower we are fielding.
I'd go further than that and abandon the dependency on centralised fire control altogether. It's certainly useful, and should be used as the primary means of fire control due to the importance of coordinated action (i.e. avoiding one ship being hit by half a dozen shots and another being ignored), but each turret should also have a local control station in case damage knocks out the centralised control or there are too many targets to deal with. In the latter case, split the sky into sections and have each turret worry about their section of it (with overlaps to avoid anything slipping through the cracks).
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
Post Reply