Fleet upgrades - Pick your fleet & tell us what you'd re

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:55 pm

not too long ago...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:20 pm

I've "Debated" with you several times and even killed you on a number of occasions. Besides, when was the last time you ragged on any of the newbs?

Quite right. I feel old, now.....

thatcha · Post by **thatcha** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:15 pm

Deepcrush wrote:Well dear friend, you've gotten the best. I've "Debated" with you several times and even killed you on a number of occasions. Besides, when was the last time you ragged on any of the newbs?

such hostility!

such is to be expected from an american i suppose......

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:21 pm

Just a word of kind warning...Last time i had a American vs English/Scottish argument it turned out unpleasant...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:52 pm

such is to be expected from an american i suppose......

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:51 pm

Deepcrush wrote:Two at the very most I would think. Anymore and the warp field would turn to mush.

Fight not carry

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:48 pm

Ah, my bad. It would mostly depend on if the defiants could stay out of the way of the sov's RFQTL. One volley from that thing could finish most any ship off. Head on I'd say they'd need 3 to 1 for a win.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:51 pm

such is to be expected from an American i suppose

The fact that you didn't in the first place worries me! That means people are letting their guard down!

*Now is our time to strike!*

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:57 pm

Deepcrush wrote:Ah, my bad. It would mostly depend on if the defiants could stay out of the way of the sov's RFQTL. One volley from that thing could finish most any ship off. Head on I'd say they'd need 3 to 1 for a win.

I'm thinking more in the way of 5 to 1.

Didn't you get that I think that building a carrier is a stupid idea.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:59 pm

3 to 1!

One to take the opening volley!

One to ram!

One to finish the sov off!

Seems workable to me.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:16 pm

I'm going to go with three for a pretty comfortable win. The thing is, the Defiants are maneuverable enough to just hang out on the back quarter of the Sov and stay out of the way of the big phaser arrays AND the good QT launcher. That takes a lot of the firepower of the Sov out of the equation.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:01 pm

Good point. A smart captain could cause a lot of damage with just s single Defiant, if he was smart.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:24 pm

Jordanis wrote:I'm going to go with three for a pretty comfortable win. The thing is, the Defiants are maneuverable enough to just hang out on the back quarter of the Sov and stay out of the way of the big phaser arrays AND the good QT launcher. That takes a lot of the firepower of the Sov out of the equation.

The Sovereign has 6 rear facing photon (presumably more advanced than normal) tubes, and has immense rear phaser coverage, as shown just after the E-E hit the Scimitar after doing the 'zero elevation' thing. Considering it's without doubt faster, too, it could if required, just zoom out if things got bad, turn round, then hit it with quantums too.
However, the best way would of course be to just ram it at warp. But in a 'proper' fight, I'd say about 4-1; the Sovereign's huge shield grid, massive phaser coverage, 9 [advanced?] photon torpedo tubes and 1 [advanced] quantum torpedo tube... GG defiants

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:13 am

Deepcrush wrote:3 to 1!

One to take the opening volley!

One to ram!

One to finish the sov off!

Seems workable to me.

Damm yoa are good, f... the people, win at any cost.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:49 pm

I see I misremembered how heavily armed the Sovereign is. It got a few of those launchers for Nemesis, didn't it?