Worst ship design in sci-fi?

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:46 pm

She did (sort of) in 'Endgame'. Although she cheated

. Now you know why i liked her.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:18 pm

Reliant121 wrote:
mwhittington wrote:Wow, a woman dumber than Janeway! That's amazing!
I didn't think she was that bad. A bit patriotic and traditional but she had more fire than Picard, in my view.

Also, unbelievably stupid - stranding her crew in the Delta Quadrant because she'd apparently never heard of timers, sticking her nose into every anomaly of the week and putting the ship in danger because of it, and a track record of taking "shortcuts" through the space of xenophobic and/or actively hostile aliens. Promoting her was probably the most intelligent thing Starfleet's ever done - kicking her upstairs and off the bridge of a starship.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:24 pm

i see there's a general concensus that she was an idiot. fair enough.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:34 pm

We calls 'em like we sees 'em.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:22 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:
Reliant121 wrote:
mwhittington wrote:Wow, a woman dumber than Janeway! That's amazing!
I didn't think she was that bad. A bit patriotic and traditional but she had more fire than Picard, in my view.
Also, unbelievably stupid - stranding her crew in the Delta Quadrant because she'd apparently never heard of timers, sticking her nose into every anomaly of the week and putting the ship in danger because of it, and a track record of taking "shortcuts" through the space of xenophobic and/or actively hostile aliens. Promoting her was probably the most intelligent thing Starfleet's ever done - kicking her upstairs and off the bridge of a starship.

Classic tactic. She must have some powerful backers in the political scene that make it impossible to cashier her.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:27 pm

It wirks like corporate America - promote the dull-wits out of the way where they can't do as much harm.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:25 am

Rochey wrote:
Mwhittington wrote:Wow, a woman dumber than Janeway! That's amazing!
What's even more horrifying is that she's a real person.

RK: What stats do you want? Armament, size, and stuff like that?

Yeah, just basically why you think it was a lousy design. Thanks.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:33 pm

Well, it's a lousey design for a couple of major factors.

Firstly, the hanger is a big open target on the front of the ship. Given that some of it's heavier weapons are based in a forward firing arc, this would mean that to bring the main guns on an enemy ship would give them a massive open target in the form of the hanger. A single shot down into the open hanger would probably blow the entire front end of the ship off.

Secondly, the rotating ring section is a poor design. The systems to make it rotate would take up large amounts of space and resources (thus giving the ship a bigger target profile), and it can obscure the firing lines of it's own guns. It would be quite easy for a turret gunner to take a chunk out of the rotating section simply by not reacting fast enough when it comes into his firing lines.

There's a big load of stats on the ship here, if you're interested.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:33 pm

Well, it's a lousey design for a couple of major factors.

Firstly, the hanger is a big open target on the front of the ship. Given that some of it's heavier weapons are based in a forward firing arc, this would mean that to bring the main guns on an enemy ship would give them a massive open target in the form of the hanger. A single shot down into the open hanger would probably blow the entire front end of the ship off.

Secondly, the rotating ring section is a poor design. The systems to make it rotate would take up large amounts of space and resources (thus giving the ship a bigger target profile), and it can obscure the firing lines of it's own guns. It would be quite easy for a turret gunner to take a chunk out of the rotating section simply by not reacting fast enough when it comes into his firing lines.

There's a big load of stats on the ship here, if you're interested.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Ah, now I remember that ship. Thanks, Rochey.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:26 pm

No problem.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:40 am

Oh, another thing about the Omega. Poor aiming for the front guns and it can accidentally blow away its own fighters.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:58 pm

Good one. Hadn't noticed that, myself.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:59 pm

Good one. Hadn't noticed that, myself.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:00 pm

Good one. Hadn't noticed that, myself.