Yesterday's Enterprise

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:43 pm

Second question; did the makers of the show not realise how stupid this was?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:17 pm

Rochey wrote:Second question; did the makers of the show not realise how stupid this was?

I suspect that question's rhetorical, but look at the design of the Galaxy class.

1) The warp core and antimatter ejection systems require power to operate, so if power (and therefore containment) fails, you can't get rid of them.

2) The warp core is so fragile that a glancing hit to a nacelle makes it explode.

3) The computer automatically runs alien software. Even worse, this infects the entire computer system indicating that's its overcentralised.

4) Their isolation wards rely on forcefields, so if power fails the entire ship is immediately contaminated.

5) Everything on the ship is run by computer, so when the computer goes haywire, they're stuffed. This extends to the holodecks, where you can't just pull the plug on the thing when it malfunctions without killing everyone inside.

Bottom line, building consoles of C4 is, by comparison, one of the less stupid design flaws - the producers were being lazy so they kept having things break, mostly through stupid design, rather than produce drama through good character drama.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:29 pm

Was it me, or did the three klingon vessels dispatch the Ent-D with remarkable ease.........bear in mind, i haven't seen the episode in years and had a hellishly upsetting day,so might be inadvertently creating rather than remembering

Space Ghost · Post by **Space Ghost** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:51 pm

Well, they were the K'Vort model battlecruisers as opposed to the standard Bird of Prey, so they pack a little more punch. Also, there were three of them and the Enterprise was trying to protect the... um... Enterprise

. Anyway, the E-D wouldn't have been able to maneuver because of the added burden of protecting the E-C.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:11 pm

I would just love to see that war from Y-E, it shows the feds on the losing end of something and i so want to see that happen! Or just the dominion come through the wormhole again and start another war!

And would someone please just beat the **** out of the romulans already! I mean come on, every other day they are doing something to kill every man, woman and child in the fed, GET THE HINT!

Ok, i'm better now. lol.

Post by **Graham Kennedy** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:18 pm

Lol, I can just see the headline "Today Starfleet sent five battle fleets into Romulan space on a 'smash and burn' campaign. The Federation President is quoted as saying 'I dunno, I got up this morning and I just finally decided that I'd had enough of the bastards.'"

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:25 pm

AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!!!
Dudes, the feds would own them!

Yes, that is the comment of a simple minded person of the low caliber sort but i felt it was enough said.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:30 pm

Besides if DITL is right they only have something like200 ships, so i say lets go for it, then lets hit the breen, their ships without the dampers are just cool looking melons waiting to be sliced.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:44 pm

Then we can use the infrastructure from those conquered territories to build up a fleet capable of chalengeing the klingons. With them out of the way nothing can stop us! The cardassians, gorn and tholians will be powerless before the might of the Federation! We convert our resources entirely to war and start the Dominon War mk2, with us as the attackers. With a massive fleet of highly effective warships we can sweep aside the Dominion!
With them gone the Federation now has a stranglehold on three different quadrants, no race shall stand before the might of the humans! With such a massive fleet we should be able to hold off borg attacks. Eventually we sweep every opposing race in the Delta quadrant. Within a centuary Earth shall reign supreme over the galaxy!
However, the current Federation would never allow such activities. As such we need a stronger government, we need to sweep aside the old regime and apoint a new, supreme, ruler. One who will guide the fledgling Terran Empire...

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*ahem*
Sorry, I seem to have been thinking aloud....

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:51 pm

Rochey wrote:Then we can use the infrastructure from those conquered territories to build up a fleet capable of chalengeing the klingons. With them out of the way nothing can stop us! The cardassians, gorn and tholians will be powerless before the might of the Federation! We convert our resources entirely to war and start the Dominon War mk2, with us as the attackers. With a massive fleet of highly effective warships we can sweep aside the Dominion!
With them gone the Federation now has a stranglehold on three different quadrants, no race shall stand before the might of the humans! With such a massive fleet we should be able to hold off borg attacks. Eventually we sweep every opposing race in the Delta quadrant. Within a centuary Earth shall reign supreme over the galaxy!

Conquer the Universe! Crush the lesser races! Unimaginable power! Unlimited rice pudding! Etcetera, etcetera.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:54 pm

NO NO NO NO NO, BAD BOY, you don't want to conquer the klingons, they join the UFP in the beginning of the 25th and the cardis will join just because now they won't have a choice by then.

AGAIN, NO, BAD! Not a Terren Empire, we would be the Galactic Empire! A thousand races come together for the one true goal, POWER!
The Dominion would join us for power and order, a new order where only the federation decides the fate of the galaxy! For the century we could do nothing but build, 3 quarters of the milky way building a fleet, a fleet of a million ships, with the tech brought to us by Capt. janeway from adm janeway we can defeat the Borg and 8472. The reborn federation will rule for 10,000 years of power and growth with nothing to challenge us!

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:05 pm

Why join with other races when you can destroy them, one planet at a time...
The Genesis device may have failed in creating a habitable world, but they would be oh so effective as planet killers.

None could stand before us!

Not a Terren Empire, we would be the Galactic Empire! A thousand races come together for the one true goal, POWER!

"I love democracy, I love the Federation. With the powers you have granted me, I will make sure the current Federation-Klingon crisis is averted."

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:08 pm

Rochey wrote:"I love democracy, I love the Federation. With the powers you have granted me, I will make sure the current Federation-Klingon crisis is averted."

UNLIMITED POWAAAHHH!!!1!1!

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:10 pm

Because silly boy.... unity means strength, strength means growth and growth is everything! If you try to wipe them out they have to fight you. But if they can join with you, build with you, and, become you, you are all the more powerful! Its why the USA is so powerful.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:13 pm

Its funny to think that, if they were smart, the Federation could have brought so many races under its rule by force, or fear of force.

Think about it. The Defiant is one of the most powerfull ships in Starfleet despite its size. Imagine a Sovereign sized Defiant, apropratiely armed, equiped with phase cloak, ablative armour, transphasic torpedos, all the stuff Starfleet had in its hand and then let slip through its fingers...

Damn, now I'm starting to get ideas for a fanfic...