www.ditl.org

Let's be honest though, much as it might have be nice to get a ship like that there is no way in hell it would have ever happened. They wouldn't put a non "sexy" ship as the focus of a show for a multi-year run.

Mikey wrote:IDK, it looks like the same design philosophy as the ENT NX, just with TOS-era parts. I'd rather have seen a primitive, vaguely cylindrical NX.

Then look at this website, i guees most of you already know it but still, this is the link http://www.starfleet-museum.org/

SomosFuga wrote:

Mikey wrote:IDK, it looks like the same design philosophy as the ENT NX, just with TOS-era parts. I'd rather have seen a primitive, vaguely cylindrical NX.

Then look at this website, i guees most of you already know it but still, this is the link http://www.starfleet-museum.org/

Some nice ships there.

http://www.starfleet-museum.org/lanc-era-ships.jpg
^ Lancaster woulda been a nice alternative to the NX.

The museum is great, I'd far rather it be canon for the time line up to TOS than what we got with Enterprise.

Agreed, although I get some vague sense of unease from some of the more gourd-shaped ships there.

Monroe - can't hotlink from Bernd.

Mikey wrote: Monroe - can't hotlink from Bernd.

*not sure what that means*

Tyyr wrote: Except that a streamlined look in small craft is a definite trend in more "modern" designs.

True, but then I never said this look is not canon or forbidden etc., just that I personally do not like it very much. It is just that I feel a more streamlined look is just not needed with a sci-fi spaceship and it rather limits the shapes of a craft eg. the more streamlined they get the more do they all look alike.

Tyyr wrote:Like it or not "streamlined," is definitely an acceptable design look in Trek.

Never said otherwise but I do not necessarily like it but then I do hope I am entiteled to my own opinion .

Tyyr wrote:As for popping a shield for atmospheric work, why? If you can just streamline the shape a bit and make it work without a shield why waste the energy on a shield?

Well first there is already research going on how to reduce air friction of aircraft by using plasma - let us say a really primitve and inefficent shield. So I would imagine that the techlevel of startrek is sufficiently enough to concentrate on other things when designing a shuttle and not aerodynamic. (That is why I quite like the TOS shuttle. Ugly as hell but then it looks really efficiently build as indeed this shape was choosed because it was easy and cheap to build in real live.)
Secondly, what is the point designing a ship according to a medium - in this case air - it will not spend most of the time in it. One could argue that a shuttle is exactly designed to do that eg landing on a planet but then if we look at todays spacecraft not all craft designed for planetary reentry are exactly streamlined or aerodynamic and I heard that even the spaceshuttle is one mean bitch to land.



That aside, I quite like the NX-01 you posted. Maybe with a few things of equipment a bit bulkier - like the nacelles or the main deflector - to show the lower techlevel and they could have achieved the almost impossible, creating a ship looking older than the enil while still looking good.

Monroe wrote:

Mikey wrote: Monroe - can't hotlink from Bernd.

*not sure what that means*

You cant link a picture to a forum directly from Bernd's sight.

Reliant121 wrote:

Monroe wrote:

Mikey wrote: Monroe - can't hotlink from Bernd.

*not sure what that means*

You cant link a picture to a forum directly from Bernd's sight.

Showed for me. But alright I took off the image markers.

Monroe wrote:
Showed for me. But alright I took off the image markers.

Thats cause it's in your browser cache.

How about the journal of Applied Treknology, the JoAT? www.treknology.org not only ships, also statrions shuttles, equipment and essays on 24th-century science.

Very hit and miss. Some of the ships look great and some are just awful.

And at the same time all ships are selected from loads of submissions to be feasible in the Star trek Universe.

Yeah, and a lot of them are just fucking ass ugly.

shran wrote:How about the journal of Applied Treknology, the JoAT? http://www.treknology.org not only ships, also statrions shuttles, equipment and essays on 24th-century science.

I agree with Tyyr - some of the things there are just ugly, or even worse - weird, impractical, and really out-of-place in the 'Trek universe.