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Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:33 pm
by Praeothmin
I just bought the books, and the more I read this thread, the less I want to read the books.
Not because of the spoilers, but because the story seems crappy... :bangwall:

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:40 pm
by Tsukiyumi
I think it sounds interesting, but barring the time travel option, an armada of thousands of Cubes should easily obliterate (or assimilate) the entire Alpha Quadrant...

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:34 am
by JudgeKing
Tsukiyumi wrote:So, what was the rest of the Alpha Quadrant doing while a wall of Cubes were sweeping through?
Morska: The IKS Sturka (Qang-class) and IKS veScharg'a (Vorcha-class) defend the planet using transphasic torpedoes.
Deneva: The USS Musashi, USS Tirpitz, USS Potemkin, USS Ajax, and USS Baliste attack a fleet of six Borg Cubes, its a draw by the fact that all ships on both sides are destroyed and everyone on the planet is dead. The Musahsi destroys the cubes by detonating all of its transphasic torpedoes in the middle of the Borg fleet.
Unknown location: Martok leads a 478 ship fleet against a 300+ Borg ship fleet. More than 70 percent of both fleets are destroyed. The remaining Borg ships head to Qo'nos.
Vulcan: The USS Atlas (Sovereign-class) under the command of Morgan Bateson leads a 40 ship against a fleet of 10 Borg Cubes. This is when the Borg finally begin resisting the transphasic torpedoes. Arund this time, Captain Hernandez temporarliy controls the Collective allowing the Atlas, Prometheus, Exeter, and USS Kearsarge destroy the remaining cubes.
Andoria: The USS Malinche (Excelsior-class) and a fleet led by the USS Venture (Galaxy-class) defend Andoria from the Borg. Took place same time as Vulcan
Ardana: The IRW Verithrax defends the from the Borg, but it destroyed in the process.
Beta Rigel: Federation victory
Aldeberan: Talarian victory
Risa: Destroyed by the Borg
Regulus: Draw
Yridia: Unknown
Celes: Unknown
Hyralan: Unknon
Qo'nos: Klingon victory

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:32 am
by Tsukiyumi
JudgeKing wrote:
Tsukiyumi wrote:So, what was the rest of the Alpha Quadrant doing while a wall of Cubes were sweeping through?
Morska: The IKS Sturka (Qang-class) and IKS veScharg'a (Vorcha-class) defend the planet using transphasic torpedoes.
Deneva: The USS Musashi, USS Tirpitz, USS Potemkin, USS Ajax, and USS Baliste attack a fleet of six Borg Cubes, its a draw by the fact that all ships on both sides are destroyed and everyone on the planet is dead. The Musahsi destroys the cubes by detonating all of its transphasic torpedoes in the middle of the Borg fleet.
Unknown location: Martok leads a 478 ship fleet against a 300+ Borg ship fleet. More than 70 percent of both fleets are destroyed. The remaining Borg ships head to Qo'nos.
Vulcan: The USS Atlas (Sovereign-class) under the command of Morgan Bateson leads a 40 ship against a fleet of 10 Borg Cubes. This is when the Borg finally begin resisting the transphasic torpedoes. Arund this time, Captain Hernandez temporarliy controls the Collective allowing the Atlas, Prometheus, Exeter, and USS Kearsarge destroy the remaining cubes.
Andoria: The USS Malinche (Excelsior-class) and a fleet led by the USS Venture (Galaxy-class) defend Andoria from the Borg. Took place same time as Vulcan
Ardana: The IRW Verithrax defends the from the Borg, but it destroyed in the process.
Beta Rigel: Federation victory
Aldeberan: Talarian victory
Risa: Destroyed by the Borg
Regulus: Draw
Yridia: Unknown
Celes: Unknown
Hyralan: Unknon
Qo'nos: Klingon victory
Wow. So the Transphasics worked well enough to eliminate at least a good portion of the Borg fleet before they adapted. Still, I'd say time travel would be the best option to eliminate them for good.

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:45 am
by Sionnach Glic
Time travel's pretty iffy. It seems to create alternate, yet almost identical, realities whenever you travel through time. Sure, you could save a Federation, but the one you came from would still fall to the Borg.

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:52 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Actually...



SPoilers...



Ardana's saved, and Deneva's wiped out. Not all the cubes were destroyed.

And yeah, Mark. The TR-116's mowed down the Borg.

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:58 pm
by Tsukiyumi
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:...The TR-116's mowed down the Borg.
So, the writers apparently were came to the same conclusion we did: the Borg don't do well against kinetic attacks that are strong enough to penetrate their armor.

Replicate some AA-12's, stat! :twisted:

And maybe some of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1RvTJBd ... re=related

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:26 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
In my ST/Sw crossover, standard-issue firearm for the MACO's against the Borg are TR-116's. And I wrote the original version of that a few years ago.[/Nostradamus] ;)

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:18 am
by Mark
All in all, it's a really good series. The only thing I didn't care for was what happened to the Borg. I'm not saying anything more about it, but suffice to say, it seemed like it closed more doors than it opened.

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:29 am
by Deepcrush
The more I hear about this, the harder it is for me to want to go read it.

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:28 am
by Tsukiyumi
Deepcrush wrote:The more I hear about this, the harder it is for me to want to go read it.
Yeah, but it would be fun to see a bunch of them get mowed down by the AA-12. :lol:

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:49 am
by Deepcrush
I'd rather use a few IARs!

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:40 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Honestly, Mark, I'm not sure what else could've been done with the Borg at that point.

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:20 pm
by Mark
Thats true as well. At that point, with the Federation moments away from destruction, it WOULD take something rather catastrophic. Still yet, I'm not sure I like it. But who knows, it may grow on me. Alot will depend on the follow ups

Re: Destiny Trilogy

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:38 pm
by Tsukiyumi
someone PM me about this; I want to know what happened, and my library is barely functional, still. :?