The potential for refits

[kostmayer]

If you're gonna post pictures like that can you please put up a spoiler alert? Thank you.

[Captain Seafort]

[Lazar]

Ba-da-pshhh!

[Sonic Glitch]

If you're gonna post pictures like that can you please put up a spoiler alert? Thank you.

That was good, I like it.

[Deepcrush]

The GCS can be upgraded along with most any ship in Starfleet. I would be happy in classing them as heavy cruisers or even battle cruisers. All that extra space could be hollowed out for extra shield gens and munitions. As to the carrier idea? Hell no. The GCS already has a lot of shuttle space. I'd much rather add some armor and better shields then a few extra fighters. Against the Sov though, no the GCS will never match it. Any upgrades that the GCS can get the Sov can get as well.

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[Graham Kennedy]

My preference for the Galaxy would be to give them masses of shields and heavy weapons.

Refit the warp core with a much, much bigger one (and more rugged, if you are a subscriber to the 'vulnerable GCS' idea). Then fill the empty 1/3 of the ship with shield generators, torpedo bays and magazines. Uprate the phasers as much as possible and add more if possible.

Then use them as battleships to the Sovereign's battlecruisers.

[Captain Seafort]

Against the Sov though, no the GCS will never match it. Any upgrades that the GCS can get the Sov can get as well.

True, but the Sov is smaller. Assuming equal technology, and equal fitness for purpose, a larger ship will always beat a smaller one head to head.

[m52nickerson]

Against the Sov though, no the GCS will never match it. Any upgrades that the GCS can get the Sov can get as well.

True, but the Sov is smaller. Assuming equal technology, and equal fitness for purpose, a larger ship will always beat a smaller one head to head.

That may be true for naval ships but not for war planes. Starships do have some things in common with both.

[Captain Seafort]

That may be true for naval ships but not for war planes. Starships do have some things in common with both.

What exactly does a starship have in common with an aircraft?

[Sionnach Glic]

A bigger hull allows space for bigger reactors, more fuel, more shield generators/projectors, thicker armour, more guns and more ammunition. Ergo, bigger is better when it comes to ships.

[stitch626]

Theres also cost to consider. Bigger may be more effective, but after a while, blueprints for a huge ship become usless when you can't afford to build it.

[Captain Seafort]

True, but that's not the point Deep was making - he was claiming that the Sov would always beat the GCS, regardless of any refits to the latter.

[Deepcrush]

The Sov is built with those upgrades in mind. The GCS isn't. What kind of work would be needed in order to allow the GCS to even support those kinds of upgrades? It wouldn't be a GCS anymore. You'd have to rebuild the whole inside of the ship. Same skin, different machine.

[Captain Seafort]

The refit required would be no more severe than the Connies', or those of Renown and the QEs, or the Cavours and Dorias.

[Deepcrush]

That may be true for naval ships but not for war planes. Starships do have some things in common with both.

Starships of ST have more in common with computers then planes. They keep the same skin but commonly change out everything on the inside. In ST bigger is normally better. However it would be difficult upgrade the GCS to such a point to match a Sov that had the same upgrades. Again, at some point it wouldn't be a GCS anymore.