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Lt. Staplic wrote:The Federation want's to expand and grow, but they do it through the free will of the planet in question.

Not necessarilly. The Federation deems any planet within their sphere of influence to by their property, whether it's a member of not, per "Insurrection".

Sort of makes you wonder whatever happened to the Iotians.

Well, I guess they're still paying the racket money to the UFP.

Hey, maybe Sigma Iotia is an analog of New Jersey!

I know it's noncanon, but in the SCE novels, they joined up with 'The Feds' and one of the USS da Vinci's security guys is an Iotian, name of Makk Vinx.

Well, Kirk definitely presented the idea of UFP membership, or at least a protectorate or commonwealth status.

It's been so long since I've seen "A Piece of the Action", that I can't really remember, but weren't the Iotians basically human?

Mark wrote:It's been so long since I've seen "A Piece of the Action", that I can't really remember, but weren't the Iotians basically human?

Somehow, yes.

Captain Seafort wrote:

Lt. Staplic wrote:The Federation want's to expand and grow, but they do it through the free will of the planet in question.

Not necessarilly. The Federation deems any planet within their sphere of influence to by their property, whether it's a member of not, per "Insurrection".

It's rather a stretch to suggest that from what we see in the film.

GrahamKennedy wrote:

Captain Seafort wrote:

Lt. Staplic wrote:The Federation want's to expand and grow, but they do it through the free will of the planet in question.

Not necessarilly. The Federation deems any planet within their sphere of influence to by their property, whether it's a member of not, per "Insurrection".

It's rather a stretch to suggest that from what we see in the film.

Yeah, that admiral seemed a bit... shifty.

Captain Seafort wrote:

Lt. Staplic wrote:The Federation want's to expand and grow, but they do it through the free will of the planet in question.

Not necessarilly. The Federation deems any planet within their sphere of influence to by their property, whether it's a member of not, per "Insurrection".

I'd say it's more something like the fact that the planet is within their borders if not an actual member. "We have the planet, they have the technology" could actually mean, "the planet is within our sphere of influence/territorial borders, so they need our permission to access it." You know what I'm saying?

Tsukiyumi wrote:

Mark wrote:It's been so long since I've seen "A Piece of the Action", that I can't really remember, but weren't the Iotians basically human?

Somehow, yes.

Weren't all the trek species basically human...with different forheads.

Tsukiyumi wrote:

Mark wrote:It's been so long since I've seen "A Piece of the Action", that I can't really remember, but weren't the Iotians basically human?

Somehow, yes.

Underwoods Theory of Parallel Development or something like that?

I'm curious. Say the Federation encounters the "dipshits". The Dipshit system is either a prewarp civilization or wants to be left alone. Does the Fed just expand around it, enclosing it in a bubble? Or if it's prewarp, do they just "assume" that once the Dipshits invent FTL, that they'll want to join?

I think they would just take the bubble approach and make the planet off limits.

Therefore, effectively blockading the poor, backwater system.