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Deepcrush wrote:You would with the men right... 8)

I wonder if the men are "bald" as well

Oh, wait...

Mark wrote:why they must take said vow of celebicy

I thought it was explained that Deltan telepathy can be overpowering when combined with an intimate relationship.

Reliant121 wrote:when he bothers to wear any.

No offense to your Dad, Reliant, but WAY TMI...

I never caught onto the fact that Deltans telepethy was related to they're sexuallity. I just guess I figured it was something more, I don't know, "dirty" I guess. Like, they had pheremones that attracted others sexually, and gave them fatal orgasims or something. I just always figured that there was more to it than that. And are they all bald?

Mark wrote:and gave them fatal orgasims or something.

When I die, that's how I want to go

Blackstar the Chakat wrote:

Mark wrote:and gave them fatal orgasims or something.

When I die, that's how I want to go

Would explain the HUGE grin on Sulu's face when Illea took her station, huh?

GrahamKennedy wrote:Does anybody else think this movie is sadly underrated?

In a word: yes. And, I find it ironic. This movie is closer to what Star Trek is all about, yet it seems to be one of the less-popular ones among the fans.

I, too, find myself liking this movie more and more every time I watch it. Even the '83 TV version was good enough to entertain a 9-year-old boy (me fourteen years ago) through multiple viewings. It might have been the Enterprise. That Enterprise is a beauty as Kirk and Scott approach her in the travel pod. I still love that today, even more so with the Director's Edition. I hear complaints about that sequence being too slow and compared to the shuttle trip in 2001. But, at least here, the ship is great to look at and the sequence had the benefit of Jerry Goldsmith's score. Whose score, in my opinion, also saved the voyage through V'Ger.

Mikey wrote:

Mark wrote:why they must take said vow of celebicy

I thought it was explained that Deltan telepathy can be overpowering when combined with an intimate relationship.

Reliant121 wrote:when he bothers to wear any.

No offense to your Dad, Reliant, but WAY TMI...

Sorry that slipped in. i'm very much glad he doesnt check this site for the things i say. i'd have been banned long ago.

God I hate this movie.

While it may have a good plot it is buried to deep to enjoy. It really needs a hour but out of it at least.

What TMP really needs is a good editor. There's a load of pointless crap that could be removed, and replaced with stuff that's actualy relevant.

It doesnt even need to be replaced.

I don't know what in this movie would count as "pointless crap". The shuttle ride to the Enterprise gives the ship, which is the heart of Star Trek, an appropriate entrance. Giving us a chance to marvel at the beautiful ship in detail. It also gives us a sense of scale. We see Kirk and Scotty beside the huge Enterprise. Then, later on with the voyage through V'Ger's cloud and over V'Ger, we see the tiny Enterprise compared to gigantic V'Ger vessel. And, in my opinion, both sequences are visually pleasing.

Having watched it recently, the only sequence that I really disliked was the wormhole / asteroid scene.

The purpose of this scene seemed to be that they wanted to show the Enterprise as unable to function properly without Spock aboard. I get that, and it's a good thing, but the way it was implemented seemed poor. In a movie where "slow" is a criticism, this scene literally plays out largely in slow motion. It's hard to make out what people are saying a lot of the time. "Taaaaaaargetinnnnnnnnnng asssssssteroiiiiiiiiiiiiid..." Bleah. I'd rather have seen this cut back to a much shorter sequence, without the weird effects on it.

Another purpose of the scene was to show Kirk's inexperience with the refitted Enterprise's systems, and to show that it was infact himself being competitive, and not Decker.

kostmayer wrote:Another purpose of the scene was to show Kirk's inexperience with the refitted Enterprise's systems, and to show that it was infact himself being competitive, and not Decker.

Very true.