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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:24 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Indeed, it seem everything has a frequency in Trek.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:30 pm
by Teaos
I dont see how it could have one. Its an explosion and thus should be spread over a wide area of the spectrum. Unless when they refer to frequency they are speaking of the shell of the torpedo which may have a field around it so it can pass through shields.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:32 pm
by Sionnach Glic
It has a frequency because of.....you know,
quantum.
I agree it
shouldn't have a frequency, but what we see would seem to indicate that they do. This
is Trek, after all. You can't expect it to be accurate.
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:39 pm
by Thorin
Actually it should... Remember wave/particle duality. Well, even you, sitting there at your computer, has a wavelength and frequency
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:47 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Curse you, laws of physics!
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:01 pm
by Mikey
Teaos wrote:I dont see how it could have one. Its an explosion and thus should be spread over a wide area of the spectrum. Unless when they refer to frequency they are speaking of the shell of the torpedo which may have a field around it so it can pass through shields.
Even aside from the fact of Thorin being correct (although much harder to apply for a 3m long particle) it doesn't matter if it makes sense - it's canon.
Rochey wrote:It has a frequency because of.....you know, quantum.
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:13 pm
by Thorin
Rochey wrote:Curse you, laws of physics!
In fact, I just noticed how completely
relevant your statement of 'you know... quantum' really is
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:27 pm
by Mikey
I wasn't even thinking of that, but Thorin's right - it actually fits. Somebody should send this to OVEG.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:28 pm
by Deepcrush
*Science!
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MUST! HIDE! TOO MUCH... THINKING... INVOLED! COULD MEAN... MATH is ON THE WAY!
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:34 am
by Graham Kennedy
I always figured the torpedo frequency was the frequency of the shields on the torpedo. Hence matching shield freqs lets the torp's shield sort of cancel out the ship's shield and pass through unimpeded.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:00 am
by Mark
Hi everybody. First time posting in the forum so far, but it won't be the last. Maybe somebody can help me out here, because I have had something that was bugging me worse than a hangnail for the longest time. Many lists have been compiled naming the ships that were lost at Wolf 359, (a couple of cannon, but mostly non). But I have long since wondered, if of the fleet of 40 ship fleet, 39 starships were destroyed by the Borg, what ship survived? Can anybody answer this nagging, ongoing, and perplexing problem for me?
Thanks
Mark
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:07 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
I believe it was the Endeavor. Captain Janeway quoted the Endeavor's captain as Voyager approached Borg infested space(the first time) about how he felt about the Borg. At the time the only known incident the Endeavor could be involved in as of Voyager's odyssey in the Delta Quadrant was the Battle of Wolf 359.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:19 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
Upon further research on the matter it was the episode "Scorpion" where Janeway quoted Captain Amasov saying, "...It is my opinion that the Borg are as close to pure Evil as any race we've ever encountered." However, there is no direct evidence for him being at Wolf 359, aside from the fact that Janeway had to have been referring to an encounter that took place before Voyager was transported to the Delta Quadrant, and that one of Hanson's ships did survive the assault on the cube. However it is the simplist and most logical solution.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:43 am
by Mark
Have to wonder how that ship survived, when you consider that the threat was so great, Riker was willing to ram the cube with the E-D to try and stop them. She must have been dead in space, or I would have assumed the Captain be willing to do ANYTHING to stop the Borg, just like Riker. Ram the cube, self destruct the ship and hope to take a piece of the cube with them, so on and so forth. But it didn't. It wasn't even there when the E-D passed through the sector. But if it was dead in space, why wasn't it assimilated. Hmmmmm, did the Captain run away from battle?
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:44 am
by Teaos
I always figured the torpedo frequency was the frequency of the shields on the torpedo. Hence matching shield freqs lets the torp's shield sort of cancel out the ship's shield and pass through unimpeded.
Thats what I thiught two. Cancel out others shields.