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I've got a Miranda for my desktop wallpaper. There are a lot of other neat ones at that site, too.


I love just about all the TOS movie-era ships! They've got nice nacelles.

Looks like I got myself some new wallpaper.
Thabks Varthikes!

I'm glad you like it.

She is one classy ship... I love the fact the Mirandas were still around in the Dominion War... I mean come on. I doubt even the Galaxy or Nebula will have that kind of staying power.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also liked the Miranda. A shame they were the whipping boys in DSN, but there's only so much refitting you can do to a ship like that.

I bet back in the day, the sight of one of her would've given the Klingons pause.

The Miranda class was a Light Cruiser. Constitution was a Heavy Cruiser. I think the Klingons would have shat bricks upon seeing Kirk's ship over Khan's =)

She is one classy ship... I love the fact the Mirandas were still around in the Dominion War... I mean come on. I doubt even the Galaxy or Nebula will have that kind of staying power.

Thats because the Miranda was an excelent design for a Trek warship. Compact, and powerfull. And it didn't have the nacelles sticking out where every one can take a shot at them.
And the Galaxy class I doubt would last long. Its a hideous design.

Varthikes wrote:I've got a Miranda for my desktop wallpaper. There are a lot of other neat ones at that site, too.


I love just about all the TOS movie-era ships! They've got nice nacelles.

Gorgeous wallpaper, that's my background now too. Thank you, sir!

Thats because the Miranda was an excelent design for a Trek warship. Compact, and powerfull. And it didn't have the nacelles sticking out where every one can take a shot at them.
And the Galaxy class I doubt would last long. Its a hideous design.

Hey, now; there's no need to get nasty about it...

Actually, I like pretty much all Star Trek ship designs...but the Miranda is probably one of my favorites.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Miranda's volume is almost equal to that of a TMP Constitution Class. Her more compact configuration would allow her to present a smaller target to attackers, she had aft tubes, and seemingly-tougher phasers on the rollbar.

Her only drawback, if it is one, is the lack of a large deflector dish, which might've resulted in lower warp speeds.

Other than that, it's easy to see why the Mirandas lasted so long. It's a good solid design.

Mirandas, as I understand it, were also quick and cheap for the Federation to build during the Dominion War.

I didn't think Mirandas were still being built during the war just using all the old ones up.

It seems an immenseley practical design, and it seems like the model could have been built for the war to pump out quick. I mean, if you've got shipyards that have been manufacturing the same thing for 80 years, with increasing technological capacity, building such a sound design might make sense. No canon source to say either way, though, I'm sure.

I question, however, that if there WERE this many Miranda classes hanging around for 80 some odd years, the size of Starfleet in the late 23rd century. If it was THAT big that 80 years later, we have these tons of Mirandas, why was 40 ships being lost at Wolf 359 such a big deal?

Because they had never had a loss that big in decades. Because of the personal killed. Because it was done by one seemingly unstoppable ship. Because even if you have thousands of ships lossing 40 is still going to hurt.

Bryan Moore wrote:I question, however, that if there WERE this many Miranda classes hanging around for 80 some odd years, the size of Starfleet in the late 23rd century. If it was THAT big that 80 years later, we have these tons of Mirandas, why was 40 ships being lost at Wolf 359 such a big deal?

It's possible that they were dumped in supply depots, and when the Dominion started rearing its ugly head they started pulling them out of the depots and refurbishing them for the war. That would explain why there were so many of them, without giving Starfleet a shipyard capacity that directly conflicts with the shortages they were still experiencing a year after Wolf 359.

I think it was more the fact that one ship took out so many without taking significant damage that was such a big deal.