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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:13 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I guess Starfleet never heard of a firewall...
I still hate the idea of having one all controlling computer. No matter what way you try to justify it no real military would ever adopt such a system.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:17 pm
by Teaos
I don't think they really have much of a choice with something as complex as a Galaxy class star ship.
Also they would probably be very confident in there computers... dispite evidence to the contrary.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:19 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Theres nothing saying you couldn't have the computers able to communicate with each other.
And one single computer might actually be slower because of the amount of tasks it would have to do every minute.
And the fact that a lot of the ships systems can't even be altred by the crew (see the episode with the Yomato) is completely ridiculous.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:25 pm
by Teaos
But if they could comunicate wouldn't they be able to pass viruses thus one of your reaons to have seperate computers becomes void.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:08 pm
by I Am Spartacus
If a virus can get in, you can stop it. If you have multiple computers connected to an LAN, and one gets a virus, to stop the infection from spreading you simply disconnect the infected computer.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:31 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Exactly. And have backups for every computer system.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:41 pm
by Bryan Moore
I would make Ten Forward larger and/or add a mess hall. 1000+ crewmen, with 3 duty shifts (according to Chain of Command) means, in theory, up to 333 people eating at once. This isn't even taking into account any sort of overlap. It's a military ship, a mess hall makes sense. =)
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:00 pm
by Captain Seafort
Bryan Moore wrote:I would make Ten Forward larger and/or add a mess hall. 1000+ crewmen, with 3 duty shifts (according to Chain of Command) means, in theory, up to 333 people eating at once. This isn't even taking into account any sort of overlap. It's a military ship, a mess hall makes sense. =)
It may make sense, but it's also counter to what appears to be the philosophy of the TNG-era Feds. They give each and every crewman their own enormous quarters, complete with separate living and sleeping areas, bathroom, and food replicator. This is not only an incredible waste of space, but I suspect also would have a negative effect on morale/esprit de corps. With crewmen eating in their own quarters, without the forced mingling of a mess hall, individual crewmen would only meet their shipmates off duty if they made a concious effort to go out looking to interact. While this wouldn't be a problem in a shipful of extroverts, those less inclined to get out of their quarters would rapidly become isolated, only meeting their shipmates in a strictly "work" environment. This is not good, as demonstrated by the likes of Reg Barclay and the group of Voyager crew Janeway took for a jaunt in the flyer in "The Good Shepard" (or something - it was shown after I'd all but given up on Voyager, so I didn't see it).
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:15 am
by Teaos
Meh in a ship on a several year mission it would be hard not to meet people and make friends even with seperate quarters.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:37 am
by Bryan Moore
Captain Seafort wrote:Bryan Moore wrote:I would make Ten Forward larger and/or add a mess hall. 1000+ crewmen, with 3 duty shifts (according to Chain of Command) means, in theory, up to 333 people eating at once. This isn't even taking into account any sort of overlap. It's a military ship, a mess hall makes sense. =)
It may make sense, but it's also counter to what appears to be the philosophy of the TNG-era Feds. They give each and every crewman their own enormous quarters, complete with separate living and sleeping areas, bathroom, and food replicator. This is not only an incredible waste of space, but I suspect also would have a negative effect on morale/esprit de corps. With crewmen eating in their own quarters, without the forced mingling of a mess hall, individual crewmen would only meet their shipmates off duty if they made a concious effort to go out looking to interact. While this wouldn't be a problem in a shipful of extroverts, those less inclined to get out of their quarters would rapidly become isolated, only meeting their shipmates in a strictly "work" environment. This is not good, as demonstrated by the likes of Reg Barclay and the group of Voyager crew Janeway took for a jaunt in the flyer in "The Good Shepard" (or something - it was shown after I'd all but given up on Voyager, so I didn't see it).
Don't non-officers/enlisteds share quarters still? I thought I remember that, perhaps not.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:42 am
by The Wormhole
Bryan Moore wrote:Captain Seafort wrote:Bryan Moore wrote:I would make Ten Forward larger and/or add a mess hall. 1000+ crewmen, with 3 duty shifts (according to Chain of Command) means, in theory, up to 333 people eating at once. This isn't even taking into account any sort of overlap. It's a military ship, a mess hall makes sense. =)
It may make sense, but it's also counter to what appears to be the philosophy of the TNG-era Feds. They give each and every crewman their own enormous quarters, complete with separate living and sleeping areas, bathroom, and food replicator. This is not only an incredible waste of space, but I suspect also would have a negative effect on morale/esprit de corps. With crewmen eating in their own quarters, without the forced mingling of a mess hall, individual crewmen would only meet their shipmates off duty if they made a concious effort to go out looking to interact. While this wouldn't be a problem in a shipful of extroverts, those less inclined to get out of their quarters would rapidly become isolated, only meeting their shipmates in a strictly "work" environment. This is not good, as demonstrated by the likes of Reg Barclay and the group of Voyager crew Janeway took for a jaunt in the flyer in "The Good Shepard" (or something - it was shown after I'd all but given up on Voyager, so I didn't see it).
Don't non-officers/enlisteds share quarters still? I thought I remember that, perhaps not.
In Lower Decks they said Ensigns shared quarters.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:44 am
by Bryan Moore
Which makes sense. And there has to be a large chunk of enlisted on the ship. I know we see all sorts of officers, but it makes no sense having mostly academy grads on the ship.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:56 am
by celeritas
speaking of quarters, who vacuums all the carpet around that place? i don't see any 24th century roombas...
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:59 am
by Bryan Moore
celeritas wrote:speaking of quarters, who vacuums all the carpet around that place? i don't see any 24th century roombas...
Would it really be needed? How dirty could things get on a starship?
Speaking of cleaning... when do we see a sonic shower?
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:00 am
by Teaos
I imagine they have something to fo it for them. Like those little robot ones we have.