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Best not to think about it.

Here's me tackling Replicators and Transporters and what the heck, the holodek.

Transporters take matter, scan it down to the quantum level using Heisenberg Compensators to find the exact position and velocity of the smallest quark and storing it in a temporary buffer. The matter is then broken down using fission with extra energy suppied by 'the main energizers' to insure a proper reconstruction can happen. This energy and the information is then beamed over a set distance were the energy undergoes fusion resembling it exactly as was stored in the buffer. How they accomplish this over distance, I haven't got a clue. They obviously don't use subspace, as subspace transporters were experimented with and found dangerous. All I can think of is that it is a form of particle creation and manipulation, again at that distance and through objects, I haven't a clue.

Think of a Transporter as the latest in today's state of the art Laser Technology.

Now think of a replicator as today's latest and state of the art flash light technology.

Replicators do not have near the computer power, comepensators, or power to draw on as Transporters. Matter is created right there in a what looks like a 18 inch by 36 inch booth. This process is fast and simple. It takes a ready supply of neutral bio sludge, dematerializes it using the fission process, then reassembles it in any combination that can be programmed into the system. Remember, your programming on a molecular level. And the fusion recombination process uses low level scanners, so it leaves alot of bit errors in the molecular formula. So, anything that requires a high degree of purity or exactness such as replicating something alive or creating extremely complex molecular patters is beyond a simple replicator.

Now, replicators can also tap into the main power grid and draw off of raw energy to make matter. Eisten stated matter/energy, one and the same. That is why a ship isolated without supplies can put matter into a replicator and return the pattern to the energy grid, by dematerializing the system and storing the energy.

Now a holodek, is more like smoke, mirrors and candle power.

Particles are generated and held in place by forcefields to give them material substance. When an object leaves the holodek, the forcefields can no longer maintain particle cohesion, and thus it falls apart. Thus, when you 'beam' holodek matter out, your just beaming unstable particle fields and reassembling them on the pad, were they promptly disapate.


okay, my brain hurts now. hope this all made sense and helped.

Jesus christ. Your destroying a year of simply using Trechnobabble!

One would think all the fission you describe, even without using heavy elements, would generate an awful lot of waste heat and radiation, no?

Mikey wrote:One would think all the fission you describe, even without using heavy elements, would generate an awful lot of waste heat and radiation, no?

With our technology today, we shield against radiation and try to dissapate heat. But with their technology both are simply forms of energy which are recycled into the system and absorbed during the transporters materialization and dematerialization phases.

c'est possible... interesting...

ultron2099 wrote:Now, replicators can also tap into the main power grid and draw off of raw energy to make matter.

No they can't - they must require base matter to produce stuff, otherwise we wouldn't see the numerous cases of items that cannot be replicated. If they're simply using energy then the original matter would be irrelevent and they'd be able to produce all the stuff that they can't (fancy rainwater, for example).

i imagine the beard on your avatar is being stroked quite profusely.

Reliant121 wrote:i imagine the beard on your avatar is being stroked quite profusely.

Well, I don't have a GIF for it, but I'm doing it in RL...

Captain Seafort wrote:

ultron2099 wrote:Now, replicators can also tap into the main power grid and draw off of raw energy to make matter.

No they can't - they must require base matter to produce stuff, otherwise we wouldn't see the numerous cases of items that cannot be replicated. If they're simply using energy then the original matter would be irrelevent and they'd be able to produce all the stuff that they can't (fancy rainwater, for example).

The reason they use the neutral bio matter rather then raw energy is its easier and cheaper on the energy grid to convert from matter to energy to matter then draw from the mains and convert energy to matter.

Mmmm, I've got to go with Seafort on this one. There have been times when they've been unable to replicate things even in extremis, and certain things (notably warp coils) have been expressly stated as being un-replicatable.

Mikey wrote:Mmmm, I've got to go with Seafort on this one. There have been times when they've been unable to replicate things even in extremis, and certain things (notably warp coils) have been expressly stated as being un-replicatable.

Yes, and as I stated, replicators leave bit errors in the molecular pattern. a warp coil i suspect must be exactlingly made to such a high degree that pattern duplication with a replicator leaves too many errors to function with the degree of necessary precision required such as the creation of a stable warp field.

So the question of whether or not they CAN create such things without the requisite "fuel" becomes academic.

Mikey wrote:So the question of whether or not they CAN create such things without the requisite "fuel" becomes academic.

Yes. The fault lies not in the supply line, but in the technology.

ultron2099 wrote:Yes, and as I stated, replicators leave bit errors in the molecular pattern. a warp coil i suspect must be exactlingly made to such a high degree that pattern duplication with a replicator leaves too many errors to function with the degree of necessary precision required such as the creation of a stable warp field.

That renders the issue of warp coils irrelevant, as Mikey says. It does not answer the question of why they're also incapable of producing various medicines, Romulan blood (but Klingon blood is an acceptable substitute) or fancy rainwater.