Worst ship design in sci-fi?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:23 pm

Jordanis wrote:The Eclipse SSD is an example of everything that is wrong with the Star Wars EU.

The Eclipse isn't too bad - it's superlaser is weak enough compared the the Death Stars that it's reasonable.

The Sun Crusher, on the other hand...

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:32 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:
Jordanis wrote:The Eclipse SSD is an example of everything that is wrong with the Star Wars EU.
The Eclipse isn't too bad - it's superlaser is weak enough compared the the Death Stars that it's reasonable.

The Sun Crusher, on the other hand...

Sun Crusher is just off the charts in terms of what is wrong with the EU.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:37 pm

Jordanis wrote:Sun Crusher is just off the charts in terms of what is wrong with the EU.

Not quite - not while the incomprehensible shite that is Karen Traviss' writings (and her attitude to everyone who points out there shittyness) exist.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:16 am

Captain Seafort wrote:
Jordanis wrote:Sun Crusher is just off the charts in terms of what is wrong with the EU.
Not quite - not while the incomprehensible shite that is Karen Traviss' writings (and her attitude to everyone who points out there shittyness) exist.

I am unfamiliar with this author. Please elaborate, I sense something hilariously stupid.

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:22 am

Don't ask! When trying to understand what goes on in her mind, "hilariously stupid" quickly becomes "coronary-inducingly frustrating and incomprehensible."

And I only know THAT much from the few examples I had by way of Seafort.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:12 am

I liked the Sun Crusher. Step up from planet-nuking? Star-destroying in the literal sense.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:35 am

I am unfamiliar with this author. Please elaborate, I sense something hilariously stupid.

She thinks that only three million people fought in the Clone Wars. She rabidly defends those numbers, even when people point out to her that having three million soldiers in a galaxy-spanning war is ridiculous. She never stops going on about how uber the Mandalorians were, and even made up a rather ridiculous language for them. In her latest book, she made a cheap jab at Curtis Saxton, and people who pointed out to her the stupidity of her numbers.

So, yeah. Hilariously stupid, and immature.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:07 am

Rochey wrote:
I am unfamiliar with this author. Please elaborate, I sense something hilariously stupid.
She thinks that only three million people fought in the Clone Wars. She rabidly defends those numbers, even when people point out to her that having three million soldiers in a galaxy-spanning war is ridiculous. She never stops going on about how uber the Mandalorians were, and even made up a rather ridiculous language for them. In her latest book, she made a cheap jab at Curtis Saxton, and people who pointed out to her the stupidity of her numbers.

So, yeah. Hilariously stupid, and immature.

WTF. I thought the Star Wars EU was managed. Why do they keep publishing her crap?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:41 am

Jordanis wrote:WTF. I thought the Star Wars EU was managed. Why do they keep publishing her crap?

If you could answer that you'd make a lot of people very grateful.

To add to Rochey's explanation, a big part of the problem with Traviss isn't the idiotic number per se, but her reaction to criticism. "My gut reaction is that they all need garrotting" and talking about "ripping someones trachea out of their pitifully unworthy neck" being two of her more colourful comments.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:46 am

Whoever the hell she is...she's certainly dramatic

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:24 pm

Let's not forget her referring to people who criticise her books as 'Talifans'.

Seafort is quite right, her books alone aren't the problem, it's the fact that she has all the maturity of a five year old when it comes to criticism.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:56 am

She used to post at theforce.net message boards and... yeesh. Yeah, any criticism of her work was a basic affront to the sanctity of life, almost.

She's one of the authors for the 'Legacy of the Force' series... and she hates Jedi. Rumor has it-RUMOR-that she cheered during Order 66 at ROTS.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:09 pm

I've heard there was some crap in one of her books about the Jedi Council conspiring with Palpatine to extend the length of the war. Is that true, or just a rumour?

With regards to the original topic of this thread, I'd like to nominate the Omega class destroyers from Babylon 5. Watching some of the DVDs yesterday made me realise just how poorly those things were designed.
Still one of my favourite ships, though.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:12 pm

Yes the Omega's did strike me as a little dopey. But if we are going into B5 my vote for the worst design would be the Narn T'loth class heavy cruiser.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:24 pm

Rochey wrote:I've heard there was some crap in one of her books about the Jedi Council conspiring with Palpatine to extend the length of the war. Is that true, or just a rumour?

Close - they were apparently conspiring to keep the "truth" of the Clone Wars being a "series of minor skirmishes" a secret. Basically yet more of her attempts to justify her figure of 3 million clones.