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Mikey wrote:IIRC, they have the Unwieldy quality.

Not sure how that would effect their combat speed though. Again, I'm not home so take a grain of salt since I can't back check this all.

That was never an issue; Swift Attack/Lightning Attack only apply to melle attacks. I'd just take the hit to BS and use two hands if I wanted extra pistol attacks.

That works.

No Melee Waepons (Power) until next rank. No Pistol (plasma) or (melta) yet, either... I'm going to take the Lightning Claw, though.

Damn, I thought you were an assault marine? N/M then.

Cpl Kendall wrote:Chain Axe but if I ditch it and take the Power talent it'll use up the rest of my XP. which I have nothing to really grab with. Other than another rank of Forbidden Lore (Xeno).

Might be worth it. I donno. I have to keep my guy based around ranged power but I want him to live if he has to fight something in melee.

Tyyr wrote:Ok, that's... just stupid. The fist they describe has the same exact stats as the DH:IH version which can be wielded by unarmored humans with just a remote power source. I know for a fact some regular marines have wielded power fists as well. No termie requirement for a power fist, but still the melee weapon (power) talent.

Should the power talent really matter for the Power Fist??? I mean, its a slow single hit crushing weapon. Not something that requires much skill.

Oh, BTW, shouldn't all SMs be Fearless?

I'm leaving it as a power weapon. Don't worry, you'll have the XP to grab one soon enough. Save something for the next go 'round.

Fearless, I thought about it but decided that if there are any fear tests to make they'll be fairly easy, +30ish. Combine that with something like Unshakeable faith and you should rarely fail one.

Deepcrush wrote:Damn, I thought you were an assault marine?

Ha! So did I. I guess the guy who wrote this never saw that even in tabletop, 2 marines in an assault squad can take plasma pistols.

Probably considers them the Vets.

Nevermind, looks like plasma pistols are never an option but basic weapons and even Heavy (Flame) are. Ugh.

Tyyr wrote:I'm leaving it as a power weapon. Don't worry, you'll have the XP to grab one soon enough. Save something for the next go 'round.

Fearless, I thought about it but decided that if there are any fear tests to make they'll be fairly easy, +30ish. Combine that with something like Unshakeable faith and you should rarely fail one.

Okay.

Mikey wrote:Ha! So did I. I guess the guy who wrote this never saw that even in tabletop, 2 marines in an assault squad can take plasma pistols.

Well, to be fair they are normally Brother Sgt's.

But really, take the cross talent. Its simple enough, or just suffer the minus ten in BS for its use. For the average character it would be a problem since their BS is only around 30. Ours are in the 50's or some in the 60's so its not really a big deal. Plus we all have Red Dot anyways.

I'll probably stick with the bolt pistols. Ranged combat isn't my main thing anyway, and even with the Rapid Reload the plasma pistol or inferno pistol still take a full action to reload.

Well, I'll be grabbing the Bolt Sniper Rifle that Tyyr whipped up, so we don't need to worry about lacking in the long-range department.

And here I was going to say that you could grab Pistol (Plasma) for 200 XP.

Allright, I used my last 200 xp for Crushing Blow (+2 damage in Melee) and Jaded.

Jaded?

Deepcrush wrote:Jaded?

You never gain insanity points from the sight of blood, death, violence or any mundane horror. Supernatural terrors affect you as normal though.

Cpl Kendall wrote:You never gain insanity points from the sight of blood, death, violence or any mundane horror. Supernatural terrors affect you as normal though.

I didn't know those first three even caused insanity points. FML!

I will be damned.

The errata page 12.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_c ... ntable.pdf

WELL DAMN! Mikey, check it out! Your wish comes true!