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Dammit!

Is it just me, or does anybody else now think about the approach of Discovery with something akin to dread?

Mikey wrote:Dammit!

The actor or the character?

Graham Kennedy wrote:Is it just me, or does anybody else now think about the approach of Discovery with something akin to dread?

That video you posted from the Midnight guys already filed me with dread.

Nutso wrote:

Mikey wrote:Dammit!

The actor or the character?

Character. I have nothing against Wilson... but I'd feel dismay and dull anger at this news even if they got Robert fucking Redford. It is this kind of laziness, enablement, dependence, and conflation of cosmetics with creativity that doom series such as this.

I guess DSC is being viewed as "the big kahuna" by CBS.

And allegedly has a few episodes done.
http://trekmovie.com/2017/05/05/moonves ... nger-demo/

I'm trying to sort out how much it's going to cost an episode, which depends on how often they're going to run a 13 episode season.

Though I suppose if one was sufficiently patient you ought to be able to just pay for a month at the end of a season and marathon them.

sunnyside wrote:I guess DSC is being viewed as "the big kahuna" by CBS.

And allegedly has a few episodes done.
http://trekmovie.com/2017/05/05/moonves ... nger-demo/

I'm trying to sort out how much it's going to cost an episode, which depends on how often they're going to run a 13 episode season.

Though I suppose if one was sufficiently patient you ought to be able to just pay for a month at the end of a season and marathon them.

Now there's a solution. I wonder how CBS will combat this, if they've thought of it yet.

Star Trek Discovery Back On For Fall; CBS CEO Talks Netflix Importance

Hulu is a phenomenal thing and it is a great organization. We felt it was odd taking our content, which is the family jewels, and putting it in an organization with our competitors. So we decided to go our own way and it was a different way to go. Hulu is wildly successful, but CBS All Access, we love what we are doing there. We obviously put The Good Wife spin-off [The Good Fight] there. We have Star Trek [Discovery] coming in the beginning of the fall. It’s going extremely well.

Why Star Trek: Discovery is on CBS All Access

Star Trek we could have sold anywhere. There was a bidding war within CBS because it is obviously a very valuable property. We also learned from Netflix. We put the other Star Trek series [on Netflix] and they did very well. They don’t share the information, but…we knew Star Trek did extremely well. They have a very loyal audience. We said “if we give them a good product, that they will come and they will pay for it. It will be special.” And that is how we look at CBS All Access.

Nutso wrote: We said “if we give them a good product, that they will come and they will pay for it. It will be special.”

One wonders why everything we've seen about it so far has been terrible, then.

That sounds suspiciously like a Trump sound-bite.

Special can mean more than one thing. Special schools, for example, are not the best schools in the county. They're typically schools that deal with pupils with special needs. Perhaps this is special in that way.

“Star Trek: Discovery” Will Be ‘Intelligent, Cinematic, and Grittier,’ says CBS Exec

CBS Interactive CEO Jim Lanzone sat down with CNET’s The 3:59 to talk about Star Trek: Discovery. While he couldn’t reveal much, he did reiterate that Discovery will be “grittier” than past Star Trek series, but indicated that, much in the spirit of the Trek franchise, it will break new ground “culturally and philosophically”.

The last Stargate television show was cinematic and grittier than previous incarnations but, it sure as hell wasn't intelligent. It stank of the SyFy channel trying to bring Battlestar: Galactica tones to the Stargate universe.

He went on to say that, while Discovery will be different, that’s not unusual for Star Trek.

“The intent is to make a great Star Trek. The people who are doing the show are not CBS executives, they are very talented showrunners. They are people who are steeped in Star Trek and are all very deep into the history of the program and I think the show reflects that."

That "not CBS Executives" part reeks of damage control. He probably saw that Midnight Expense vid that Graham posted which hammered Les Moonves for getting too hands-on in STD's production, and passive-aggressively deal with it.

No plans for naked Klingons in DSC, but anything is possible

Lanzone caught some flak in the past for his comments about the possibility of Discovery having sex and violence, given that it is being broadcast via CBS’s online platform All Access. Since then, the show’s lead Sonequa Martin-Green has gone on record calling the show “bigger, rawer, and grittier”. With that in mind, The 3:59‘s Roger Cheng asked him straight out: Will there be Game of Thrones-level violence and sex?”

“I highly doubt that. The difference is you could if you needed to, right? If the showrunners and creators wanted to tell that story they could because living online there are technically no ratings. In the past someone asked me that question and I said ‘yeah, theoretically’ And then everybody went berserk saying ‘I can’t believe you are going to have naked Klingons!'”

This is interesting. No ratings, this is paid service like HBO. The creative staff could do anything. I really do not want to see naked Klingons. Maybe 90% of me doesn't want to see naked Klingons. I mean, that would be really expensive, in cash and time. Full body prosthetics. Naked Ferengi ladies. Maybe instead of sexiness, perhaps we can have a Gorn army. A real scary looking, scaly Gorn army.

It is a little disappointing that they can do anything, no ratings board or advertisers to placate, but they bring Klingons but uglier and scarier looking, and Harry Mudd? However, the open playing field, so to speak, is the most intriguing part of this whole STD endeavor.

I really don't give a crap whether they put sex and violence into it. Both are part of the world, so I'm fine if they put them in. Also fine if they don't, because there exists porn and action movies in the world.

As far as I am concerned the USS Fugly proved that the people making this show do not in fact intend to make a great Star Trek show - they intend to make a show that will appeal to their desired demographic, and then call it Star Trek and steal some elements from Trek in order to try and draw on the nostalgia.

I've tried to give it a chance, but frankly I view the approach of this show with dread. I don't even know if I will watch it at all.

Gritty... Oh god no.

https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/ ... 6588348416

First look at #StarTrekDiscovery with @SonequaMG as First Officer Michael Burnham and #MichelleYeoh as Captain Philippa Georgiou.